rec.autos.simulators

> AAMOF, I joined a league which had been recommended to me for its strict
and
> strictly enforced rules, and was surprised to see how many yellows they
have
> on ovals despite these rules.

> I guess it's really all down to personal maturity. Drive within your
limits
> and focus on finishing.

> Achim

> > It's amazing that something that is 90% good can be turned into
somehting
> > negative by a few.

> > We just had three excellent races in a row. Coke is a track that most
> people
> > think is a disaster waiting to happen, yet we had one of our best races
> > there yesterday. Can't believe any complaints about the overall RASCAR
set
> > up came out of this one. Somehow, the thread concerning it degenerates
to
> > the point that Eldred is now frustrated enough that he is saying we are
> > going to take a break from the races, have an invite list, and a rule
> book.

> > WTF?

> > It seems to me that only a handful of people are doing the majority of
the
> > complaining about the quality of the races and whether or not steps need
> to
> > be taken to fix them. I got screwed twice in yesterday's race but I'm
> still
> > not angry at anyone or wanting any drastic changes.

> > This isn't a league yet the races overall have been pretty damn good
> despite
> > what a few want to say (and some who don't even participate), and if we
> > could simply find a way to encourage more practicing, then that would be
> the
> > best way to make the quality of the racing go up even higher. Rule
changes
> > and stopping racing won't do much. I say that because I see even the
most
> > experienced and serious sim drivers making normal mistakes. Very little
to
> > do with rules IMO. Connection problems cause more yellows than poor rule
> > choices actually.

> > David G Fisher

> In the last two races we've had 5 and 7 yellows. A number of them were
> caused by warp. That's pretty damn good considering the tracks (Texas and
> Coke). People are talking themselves into an emotional state for some
reason
> and are getting close to ruining something pretty good IMO.

> Humans have proven themselves very good at that though, right? :-)

> David G Fisher

> > I haven't been racing either recently so I say this as purely
> informational,
> > but I've asked around in a few leagues which have strict rules regarding
> > causing yellows, and I'd dare say their yellow figures aren't much
> different
> > from RASCAR's.

> > AAMOF, I joined a league which had been recommended to me for its strict
> and
> > strictly enforced rules, and was surprised to see how many yellows they
> have
> > on ovals despite these rules.

> > I guess it's really all down to personal maturity. Drive within your
> limits
> > and focus on finishing.

> > Achim

> > > It's amazing that something that is 90% good can be turned into
> somehting
> > > negative by a few.

> > > We just had three excellent races in a row. Coke is a track that most
> > people
> > > think is a disaster waiting to happen, yet we had one of our best
races
> > > there yesterday. Can't believe any complaints about the overall RASCAR
> set
> > > up came out of this one. Somehow, the thread concerning it degenerates
> to
> > > the point that Eldred is now frustrated enough that he is saying we
are
> > > going to take a break from the races, have an invite list, and a rule
> > book.

> > > WTF?

> > > It seems to me that only a handful of people are doing the majority of
> the
> > > complaining about the quality of the races and whether or not steps
need
> > to
> > > be taken to fix them. I got screwed twice in yesterday's race but I'm
> > still
> > > not angry at anyone or wanting any drastic changes.

> > > This isn't a league yet the races overall have been pretty damn good
> > despite
> > > what a few want to say (and some who don't even participate), and if
we
> > > could simply find a way to encourage more practicing, then that would
be
> > the
> > > best way to make the quality of the racing go up even higher. Rule
> changes
> > > and stopping racing won't do much. I say that because I see even the
> most
> > > experienced and serious sim drivers making normal mistakes. Very
little
> to
> > > do with rules IMO. Connection problems cause more yellows than poor
rule
> > > choices actually.

> > > David G Fisher

> > People are talking themselves into an emotional state for some reason
> > and are getting close to ruining something pretty good IMO
> > -------------------------------------------

> > I've decide to stay out of any discussion. I'm just going to show up and
> > race. I try to race clean and not hold anyone up. If I'm warping, like
> last
> > race I leave.
> > I race in RASCAR for fun.

> > --
> > Richard "ZZ" Busch

> I'm going to show up too. If the race is canceled, we can try to make
> alternative plans to keep it going with another server. I understand if
> Eldred is frustrated and wants to take a break. Guys have apparently
gotten
> to him with their complaining. He's also having problems at home so I have
> no problem with whatever he wants to do.

> I just bought a new video card (may be here by Sat.) in my neverending
quest
> to stop these damn freezes, which brings my N2002 total to about $400.
Yea.
> :-( I plan on putting all this hardware I've been paying for lately to
work.
> If some other guys don't want to do the RASCAR races this Sat. and in
> following weekends then they don't have to. The rest of us can still race
> without them. Jason's server is still online, or perhaps we can find
another
> until Eldred gets back. Guess we'll just wait and see for now.

> David G Fisher

> > People are talking themselves into an emotional state for some reason
> > and are getting close to ruining something pretty good IMO
> > -------------------------------------------

> > I've decide to stay out of any discussion. I'm just going to show up and
> > race. I try to race clean and not hold anyone up. If I'm warping, like
> last
> > race I leave.
> > I race in RASCAR for fun.

> > --
> > Richard "ZZ" Busch

> I'm going to show up too. If the race is canceled, we can try to make
> alternative plans to keep it going with another server. I understand if
> Eldred is frustrated and wants to take a break. Guys have apparently
gotten
> to him with their complaining. He's also having problems at home so I have
> no problem with whatever he wants to do.

> I just bought a new video card (may be here by Sat.) in my neverending
quest
> to stop these damn freezes, which brings my N2002 total to about $400.
Yea.
> :-( I plan on putting all this hardware I've been paying for lately to
work.
> If some other guys don't want to do the RASCAR races this Sat. and in
> following weekends then they don't have to. The rest of us can still race
> without them. Jason's server is still online, or perhaps we can find
another
> until Eldred gets back. Guess we'll just wait and see for now.

> David G Fisher

> > > People are talking themselves into an emotional state for some reason
> > > and are getting close to ruining something pretty good IMO
> > > -------------------------------------------

> > > I've decide to stay out of any discussion. I'm just going to show up
and
> > > race. I try to race clean and not hold anyone up. If I'm warping, like
> > last
> > > race I leave.
> > > I race in RASCAR for fun.

> > > --
> > > Richard "ZZ" Busch

> > I'm going to show up too. If the race is canceled, we can try to make
> > alternative plans to keep it going with another server. I understand if
> > Eldred is frustrated and wants to take a break. Guys have apparently
> gotten
> > to him with their complaining. He's also having problems at home so I
have
> > no problem with whatever he wants to do.

> > I just bought a new video card (may be here by Sat.) in my neverending
> quest
> > to stop these damn freezes, which brings my N2002 total to about $400.
> Yea.
> > :-( I plan on putting all this hardware I've been paying for lately to
> work.
> > If some other guys don't want to do the RASCAR races this Sat. and in
> > following weekends then they don't have to. The rest of us can still
race
> > without them. Jason's server is still online, or perhaps we can find
> another
> > until Eldred gets back. Guess we'll just wait and see for now.

> > David G Fisher

> David G Fisher

> > What kind of card did you get?

> > > > People are talking themselves into an emotional state for some
reason
> > > > and are getting close to ruining something pretty good IMO
> > > > -------------------------------------------

> > > > I've decide to stay out of any discussion. I'm just going to show up
> and
> > > > race. I try to race clean and not hold anyone up. If I'm warping,
like
> > > last
> > > > race I leave.
> > > > I race in RASCAR for fun.

> > > > --
> > > > Richard "ZZ" Busch

> > > I'm going to show up too. If the race is canceled, we can try to make
> > > alternative plans to keep it going with another server. I understand
if
> > > Eldred is frustrated and wants to take a break. Guys have apparently
> > gotten
> > > to him with their complaining. He's also having problems at home so I
> have
> > > no problem with whatever he wants to do.

> > > I just bought a new video card (may be here by Sat.) in my neverending
> > quest
> > > to stop these damn freezes, which brings my N2002 total to about $400.
> > Yea.
> > > :-( I plan on putting all this hardware I've been paying for lately to
> > work.
> > > If some other guys don't want to do the RASCAR races this Sat. and in
> > > following weekends then they don't have to. The rest of us can still
> race
> > > without them. Jason's server is still online, or perhaps we can find
> > another
> > > until Eldred gets back. Guess we'll just wait and see for now.

> > > David G Fisher