rec.autos.simulators

> > For those of you like me who still have a centering problem after
> installing
> > 4.11C I was able to get a temporary fix for the problem from the guys at
> > Wingman team . This fix is not official or beta or anything from
logitech
> so
> > don't expect any support from them.

> > I have posted the fix on the high gear forums

> > But does this registry tweak pull the *wheel* more to the left, or does
it
> > push the *center* more to the left (effectively pulling the wheel to the
> > right)?
> Not sure what you mean but what it did for me and now others is actually
> move the centering of the wheel over either left or right now depending on
> your problem. Before when I would let go of the wheel it would sit just
> about 7 degrees off to the right and when you moved it you could feel that
> it was off to the right by the play in the wheel before the force feedback
> would kick in. Now the wheel when left alone sits dead center and the play
> is equal to both left and right.

> I have uploaded the latest reg files to the forums that fix the pull left
> and the pull right for those that had the either problem.

> > > The idea is that that the fix adjusts the center position of the
wheel.

> > > But does this registry tweak pull the *wheel* more to the left, or
does
> it
> > > push the *center* more to the left (effectively pulling the wheel to
the
> > > right)?

> > Not sure what you mean but what it did for me and now others is actually
> > move the centering of the wheel over either left or right now depending
on
> > your problem. Before when I would let go of the wheel it would sit just
> > about 7 degrees off to the right and when you moved it you could feel
that
> > it was off to the right by the play in the wheel before the force
feedback
> > would kick in. Now the wheel when left alone sits dead center and the
play
> > is equal to both left and right.

> > I have uploaded the latest reg files to the forums that fix the pull
left
> > and the pull right for those that had the either problem.

> Ah, I see it now, you've uploaded a fix that addresses both possibilities.
> I'm not sure if I'll have to use it, because the centering problem I had
> (wheel pulled to the left) seemed to have almost gone after a complete
> reinstall of the Wingman 4.11c software. However, the wheel still isn't
dead
> straight: I can't get a perfect horizontal line under the wheel in the
game
> controllers panel (it's either slightly left or slightly right). So I
guess
> I'll give the fix a try anyway.

> Cheers,

> Ice D

> > > > The idea is that that the fix adjusts the center position of the
> wheel.

> > > > But does this registry tweak pull the *wheel* more to the left, or
> does
> > it
> > > > push the *center* more to the left (effectively pulling the wheel to
> the
> > > > right)?

> > > Not sure what you mean but what it did for me and now others is
actually
> > > move the centering of the wheel over either left or right now
depending
> on
> > > your problem. Before when I would let go of the wheel it would sit
just
> > > about 7 degrees off to the right and when you moved it you could feel
> that
> > > it was off to the right by the play in the wheel before the force
> feedback
> > > would kick in. Now the wheel when left alone sits dead center and the
> play
> > > is equal to both left and right.

> > > I have uploaded the latest reg files to the forums that fix the pull
> left
> > > and the pull right for those that had the either problem.

> > Ah, I see it now, you've uploaded a fix that addresses both
possibilities.
> > I'm not sure if I'll have to use it, because the centering problem I had
> > (wheel pulled to the left) seemed to have almost gone after a complete
> > reinstall of the Wingman 4.11c software. However, the wheel still isn't
> dead
> > straight: I can't get a perfect horizontal line under the wheel in the
> game
> > controllers panel (it's either slightly left or slightly right). So I
> guess
> > I'll give the fix a try anyway.

> > Cheers,

> > Ice D

> Hope it works for you, let me know your results and I will pass them along
> to the wingman guys for official fix.

> Murchman

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> > Oddly, it didn't go very far :(
> Well looks like they have seen the light. They still may not provide it in
> the drivers but as a separate piece of software, I wasn't really told
other
> then they are working on a "t*** tool"

> > > Way back when this first became an issue, I asked them to put a slider
> in
> > > the Global Wingman options to take care of this.  Not all computers
are
> > > alike.

> > > Oddly, it didn't go very far :(

> > Well looks like they have seen the light. They still may not provide it
in
> > the drivers but as a separate piece of software, I wasn't really told
> other
> > then they are working on a "t*** tool"

> It shouldn't be too difficult. All they have to do is build the registry
fix
> in the software, so you can change it with the click of a button (or
> slider).

> Ice D

> > Hope it works for you, let me know your results and I will pass them
along
> > to the wingman guys for official fix.

> Will do, as soon as I got time for it (probably tomorrow)

> > > Hope it works for you, let me know your results and I will pass them
> along
> > > to the wingman guys for official fix.

> > Will do, as soon as I got time for it (probably tomorrow)

> I've tried the fix, but I've returned to the default settings. Using any
of
> the registry fixes seemed to make the wheel more off center than the
default
> settings. But when I turned the wheel left to right (full), this off
center
> effect would disappear. I have to say I found it confusing, because it's a
> visual tweak of something that ought to be very precise. It would be
better
> if you could manually set the center value to zero, just like in
DXDeadzone
> (which doesn't work in XP).

> Ice D