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Chasing the GPL "Authors"

Kurt Steinboc

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Kurt Steinboc » Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I was just dorking around aimlessly with GPL last night, kinda half watching
replays and helping my kid do homework.  I realized I still have the
original replays that came with GPL.  Hey, I thought, those used to blow me
away when I was trying to learn how to drive.  But, hey, I've got thousands
of laps in now with highly-refined (not by me, mind you) set-ups at my
disposal.  I'll bet I look pretty good now in comparison.

Boy, was I disappointed!  To refresh your memories, here's how our beloved
designers and beta testers could drive ONE-AND-A-HALF YEARS AGO!

KYA -- Mike Laskey -- 12086
MEX -- Doug Arnao -- 15048
MON -- Dave Kaemmer -- 12933
MONZA -- Matt Sentell -- 13017
MOS -- D.A. -- 12313
NUR -- D.A. -- 82193
ROU -- D.K. -- 15928
SIL -- Alison Hine -- 13091
SPA -- D.K. -- 32034
WAT -- M.S. -- 10691
ZAN -- D.K. -- 12731

With all of the laps I've run, I've only beaten two of those -- predictably,
Monza and the Glen.

I've given up any thoughts of driving anywhere near the likes of Wolfgang,
Greger, Ian, et. al.  But I'm completely astounded that the folks above were
able to run as fast as they did that long ago, knowing what they knew then
about set-ups.

Ah, well.  I'm awarding myself two personal "Masters Points" for beating two
of those times.  Only 9 more tracks to work on.  Whew, back to the wheel!

Regards,

Kurt

Don Scurlo

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Don Scurlo » Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I set myself the goal to beat each of those times by at least one
second and to date I've only beat four, and now that I've discovered
VROC hotlapping is out the window. But I'm sure glad those replays
were included as they have been a great goal to chase.



--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

ymenar

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by ymenar » Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:00:00


After racing online, I've stopped trying to do hotlaps.  And even more with
the patch that eliminated low-rides remember Kurt.  I've beaten 7 of them,
so that's enough for me ;-P

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Chris Cavi

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by Chris Cavi » Sat, 12 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I've managed to beat all but Kyalami...  in the Brabham. :)

-Chris-

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Peter Ive

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by Peter Ive » Sat, 12 Feb 2000 04:00:00


deja.com> writes

I had beaten all but The Ring many months ago and then about a month
back did an 8:20.9 in an online race, with my trusty joystick. :)
--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Michael Youn

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Michael Youn » Sun, 13 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Chasing the AI is still giving me the hoots! So, I'm not a hot-shoe. I
really don't understand where and how the times are coming from. At Spa, my
best is a lowly 3:24. More usually, I'm ecstatic with 3:27 in racing trim.
Tonight, I noticed in the replays that Gurney, driving a supposedly
identical Eagle, beats me solidly and consistently on the straights. I'm
pulling away in the corners -- in, out, and through -- but he eats it all
back up on the next straight. If I had to guess, he looks to have a 50 hp
advantage. So, I have to ask, are there tweaks to be made in the .ini files
to help me?

Also, I don't think it's fair that they get into horrific wrecks and then
just keep on coming. Gurney tried to pass on the inside going into Stavelot,
and managed to get all the way by before the turn entrance. Swinging back
out across my nose to pick up the racing line, he overcooked it and slid off
into the fence on the outside. I was very pleased and surprised to see that
the AI phucks up the same way I do. However, my glee was short-lived, as he
was right back on my tail even before we left Stavelot. Checking the replay
later, he simply caromed of the fence at 190+ mph, blipped down two gears,
and kept right on coming. This was in practice for a GP race, with realistic
damage (but apparently not for the AI). I held him off for 2 more laps by
simply holding the racing line. Gurney would pull even or get a nose ahead
coming into Masta and Stavelot, but would always fall back in line. He
finally passed me for good when I caved and overpowered it coming out of
Cottage. (He wasn't close enough to have rammed me. As I said, I beat him
solidly through most corners.)

I also notice AI-Gurney shifts at 10k rpm. The Eagle's engine explodes by
lap 5 when I shift much higher than 9k. No doubt this gives him an
acceleration and top speed advantage, but enough to pull all the way ahead
between Masta and Stavelot??? We're at equal speed coming out of Masta; if
anything, I have the slightest advantage by virtue of unloading and
accelerating first. So, gents, what's the secret here? I have a MSFF set, so
there isn't anything I can about possible pedal miscalibration. Where can I
find more straightline speed?

Beating the Authors is fine and dandy; I'm just looking to not be a
tail-marker with the AI. I have a replay of 4 laps of this nonsense,
including his unspectacular crash and miraculous recovery. If you'd care to
critique, please let me know.

Michael.



> deja.com> writes

> >> KYA -- Mike Laskey -- 12086
> >> MEX -- Doug Arnao -- 15048
> >> MON -- Dave Kaemmer -- 12933
> >> MONZA -- Matt Sentell -- 13017
> >> MOS -- D.A. -- 12313
> >> NUR -- D.A. -- 82193
> >> ROU -- D.K. -- 15928
> >> SIL -- Alison Hine -- 13091
> >> SPA -- D.K. -- 32034
> >> WAT -- M.S. -- 10691
> >> ZAN -- D.K. -- 12731

> >I've managed to beat all but Kyalami...  in the Brabham. :)

> I had beaten all but The Ring many months ago and then about a month
> back did an 8:20.9 in an online race, with my trusty joystick. :)
> --
> Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

> No person's opinions can be said to be
> more correct than another's, because each is
> the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Mike Laske

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Mike Laske » Sun, 13 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Muhahahahahaah :-)

Mike.

Chris Cavi

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by Chris Cavi » Sun, 13 Feb 2000 04:00:00

<VBG>

-Chris-

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Bill Cransto

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by Bill Cransto » Sun, 13 Feb 2000 04:00:00

There are several utilities that can address the problematic AI.  AI
Tweaker is one of them, another is LPEdit.  Both can be dl'd from
places like The Pits or other GPL sites.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:41:31 -0800, "Michael Young"

Eldre

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Eldre » Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:00:00



>I was just dorking around aimlessly with GPL last night, kinda half watching
>replays and helping my kid do homework.  I realized I still have the
>original replays that came with GPL.  Hey, I thought, those used to blow me
>away when I was trying to learn how to drive.  But, hey, I've got thousands
>of laps in now with highly-refined (not by me, mind you) set-ups at my
>disposal.  I'll bet I look pretty good now in comparison.

>Boy, was I disappointed!  To refresh your memories, here's how our beloved
>designers and beta testers could drive ONE-AND-A-HALF YEARS AGO!

>KYA -- Mike Laskey -- 12086
>MEX -- Doug Arnao -- 15048
>MON -- Dave Kaemmer -- 12933
>MONZA -- Matt Sentell -- 13017
>MOS -- D.A. -- 12313
>NUR -- D.A. -- 82193
>ROU -- D.K. -- 15928
>SIL -- Alison Hine -- 13091
>SPA -- D.K. -- 32034
>WAT -- M.S. -- 10691
>ZAN -- D.K. -- 12731

>With all of the laps I've run, I've only beaten two of those -- predictably,
>Monza and the Glen.

Well, I haven't beaten ANY of them, although I've gotten close with a 1:30.26
at Monza.  The rest aren't even in the same TIME zone... :(

Eldred
--
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Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Don Scurlo

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by Don Scurlo » Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:00:00


fw.aol.com>:

Am I mistaken or didn't you just say you had broken into the ***s at Spa?

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

Tim Vanhe

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Tim Vanhe » Thu, 17 Feb 2000 04:00:00



Pffff, Weeeeak!  I've beaten all of them with my eyes shut!

Errr, wait a sec, that isn't like 12086 SECONDS is it?

Eldre

Chasing the GPL "Authors"

by Eldre » Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:00:00


writes:



>fw.aol.com>:

>>Well, I haven't beaten ANY of them, although I've gotten close with a
>1:30.26
>>at Monza.  The rest aren't even in the same TIME zone... :(

>>Eldred

>Am I mistaken or didn't you just say you had broken into the ***s at Spa?

>--
>Don Scurlock
>Vancouver,B.C.

I *wish*!  Nope.  My PB is only 3:29 at Spa.  Anything else was either a
mistaken message, or a typo on my part.

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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with experience...
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