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16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

Daru

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Daru » Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:41:16

I posted this in the rec.autos.sport.f1 area and was surprised (not!)
that the message got shoved to the bottom by the usual collection of
political posts that seem to proliferate that newsgroup. Hopefully, I
will have better luck learning something by posting here. I do
apologize for the OT nature, but I don't see another way to solicit
human response, with the Papy, RSC and Pits all offline.

Got the book (author Nigel Roebuck) for Xmas and began reading it
today. In the Imola chapter, (top of pg. 22) he mentions that in 1996,
Max Mosley wanted to remove what he called "life threatening corners"
from the F1 tracks. He claimed that there were 16 of them.

Does anyone know what they were and what the outcome of his decision
was? Obviously chicanes abound now, both in older tracks and in new
designs.

Steve Whitt

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Steve Whitt » Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:43:20


can't help you directly.  but try the rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated

just had a look.  a lot less polotics in there:)

cheers

steve

Steve Smit

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Steve Smit » Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:17:38

Meanwhile, lemme guess:

Tamburello, of course (after the horse is stolen)
Eau Rouge
Curva Grande (altho modified in '94)
the whole Nordschleife (altho replaced by the
Sanitized-for-Your-Protection-Ring in '84)

all of Suzuka
all of Monaco
all of Watkins Glen (altho long gone by '94)

Jeez, hard to believe Max didn't wanna ban motor racing outright as too
dangerous.  Who's he with?  The FIA...or the FBOMAAHAFE (Fraternal and
Benevolent Order of Mothers Against Anybody Having Any Fun Ever)?

And wasn't his father a Nazi?


Steve Smit

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Steve Smit » Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:16:18

If you find out, I'd love to know - please post here.  (Sorta like George
Carlin's 7 Words You'll Never Hear on TV.)


Steve Bycrof

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Steve Bycrof » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:25:04

That's a great book...I got thru it in about 2 days.  What are some other F1
books that are of comparable quality?


Daru

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Daru » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 04:41:37

Steve Matchett's book was also good. I got thru that in 2 days as well.
I got halfway thru Eddie Jordan's biography, but put it down. I'll
finish that someday. As for NASCAR (if interested), Smokey Yunick's
autobiography is FANTASTIC. It's a huge book and he is very "colorful"
to say the least. One of my favorite motor sports books.
Bruce Kennewel

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:38:44

He was the leader of the Socialist Party in Britain, yes.
But don't inflict the sins of the father onto the son, Steve; after all,
young Max had about as much say in his father's ideology and profession as
did Goebbell's kids in theirs.

Bruce.


Damien Smit

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Damien Smit » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:16:11

I'm sure if a lot of the members of this group had their way we'd see a lot
more funerals in F1.  No thanks.

Steve Smit

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Steve Smit » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:14:19

I believe it was the *National* Socialist Party, Bruce - a small but
significant difference....


> He was the leader of the Socialist Party in Britain, yes.
> But don't inflict the sins of the father onto the son, Steve; after all,
> young Max had about as much say in his father's ideology and profession as
> did Goebbell's kids in theirs.

> Bruce.



> > And wasn't his father a Nazi?

Daru

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Daru » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:33:18

Are you saying that ppl. here would like to see more tragedy in racing?
I can only presume this by the Max bashing that has preceded your post.
I would wager that despite the dislike for MM and his minions, no one
WANTS to see another death in any form of racing.

I don't like the chicanes any more than most racing fans, but they were
put there for a reason. Perhaps there were other ways to make circuits
"safer", (i.e. larger run off areas, styrofoam barriers, etc.) but that
wasn't done.

Jon

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Jon » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:46:43


Steve Matchett's book was useless, Benetton propaganda.

Daru

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Daru » Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:52:17

Considering that he was writing about his career as a mechanic and a
substantial part of his career and success was AT Bennetton, what else
was he going to write about? Recipes for chicken?
Your post is useless. Idiot.
Uwe Sch??rkam

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Sun, 09 Jan 2005 04:15:58

I also enjoyed "Life in the fast lane" by Steve Matchett. My favourite
title is "Formula One: Portraits of the Sixties" by Rainer
Schlegelmilch.

cheers,

uwe

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16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Helicon_On » Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:41:34


I thought it was the British Union of Fascists, actually....

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Ruud Dingeman

16 "Life Threatening Corners" - from the book "Chasing the Title"

by Ruud Dingeman » Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:59:49


> Meanwhile, lemme guess:
> the whole Nordschleife (altho replaced by the
> Sanitized-for-Your-Protection-Ring in '84)
> all of Monaco
> Jeez, hard to believe Max didn't wanna ban motor racing outright as too
> dangerous.  Who's he with?  The FIA...or the FBOMAAHAFE (Fraternal and
> Benevolent Order of Mothers Against Anybody Having Any Fun Ever)?

> And wasn't his father a Nazi?

;)   Now Steve, be nice.   It's bad enough that the man was called Oswald.

Regards, Rudy
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