rec.autos.simulators

by **J. Todd Wass** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:40:24

>Subject: Re: Racing Legends Site Down

>Date: 6/22/2004 1:11 PM Central Daylight Time

>Sites still down though and you get thrown out to all sorts of ads.

>Andi.

Check again.

Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **Bill Worre** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:15:54

> Maybe they're gonna have to sell their huse again... Or maybe selll the
> cat for scientific experiments...

> >Date: 6/22/2004 4:24 AM Central Daylight Time

> >> BTW., their cat, Spooky, was sadly killed by a car. This was covered
on
> >the
> >> main page of their site roughly a year ago. Gotta pay more attention,
> >folks
> >> ;-)

> >Doesn't mean they stil can't sell it.

> I'm confused... Sell what? The web site? I just explained the situation
and
> clearly that's not what's up. Of course, maybe you believe I'm making
this
> up... No biggie then. I understand your skepticism. :-P

The cat of course. :-P

by **Andi Col** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:42:42

Hmm, I now get 'page cannot be displayed', it is
http://www.racing-legends.com/ that I'm supposed to be looking at isn't it?

Andi.

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> >Subject: Re: Racing Legends Site Down

> >Date: 6/22/2004 1:11 PM Central Daylight Time

> >Sites still down though and you get thrown out to all sorts of ads.

> >Andi.

> Check again.

> Todd Wasson
> Racing Software
> http://PerformanceSimulations.com
> http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

by **J. Todd Wass** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:54:18

>Date: 6/22/2004 4:15 PM Central Daylight Time

>> Maybe they're gonna have to sell their huse again... Or maybe selll the
>> cat for scientific experiments...

>> >Date: 6/22/2004 4:24 AM Central Daylight Time

>> >> BTW., their cat, Spooky, was sadly killed by a car. This was covered
>on
>> >the
>> >> main page of their site roughly a year ago. Gotta pay more attention,
>> >folks
>> >> ;-)

>> >Doesn't mean they stil can't sell it.

>> I'm confused... Sell what? The web site? I just explained the situation
>and
>> clearly that's not what's up. Of course, maybe you believe I'm making
>this
>> up... No biggie then. I understand your skepticism. :-P

>The cat of course. :-P

Ooooo... Bad taste. I love it :-P

Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.com
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

by **J. Todd Wass** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:55:38

>Date: 6/22/2004 4:42 PM Central Daylight Time

>Hmm, I now get 'page cannot be displayed', it is
>http://www.racing-legends.com/ that I'm supposed to be looking at isn't it?

>Andi.

Yeah, that's right. It's still working here. Not sure what's up or why that's
happening. Strange :-)

Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.com
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

by **Rusty Unge** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:37:11

>>Date: 6/21/2004 2:53 PM Central Daylight Time

>>>Quite frankly, with all the negativity and abuse they take from the race sim
>>>community sometimes I wonder why they bother continuing the project at all.
>>>Your opinions and attitudes effect a developer's day more than you realize.

>>>Todd Wasson
>>>Racing Software
>>>http://PerformanceSimulations.com
>>>http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

>>You are correct, but maybe that criticism is based on the fact that
>>the updates come maybe once about every 8 months or so it seems, and
>>people get tired of that and stop checking. Frankly, you should know,
>>that racing simmers are very impatient people, and like to see
>>progress reports from time to time, not from year to year. I would
>>even be willing to do the updates from them, you know, just email what
>>they have been doing, even if you know it reads still working on the
>>same thing this week, you see my point. I think if the consistency
>>was there in the updating, the criticism would drop a lot. I think it
>>will be a good sim for the racing community, but the criticism from
>>the groups is sort of bought upon themselves.

>>"What does a redneck say right before he dies? Hey y'all, watch this!"
>>-Michael Waltrip, August 22nd, 2003, Bristol

>I understand your view, Rusty. I'm sure you'd agree though that uninvited
>criticism is still precisely that and can burn in a way that doesn't help.

>I think everyone should just forget about RL. What's the big deal? If it
>happens, great. If not, there's always GTR ;-)

>Todd Wasson
>Racing Software
>http://PerformanceSimulations.com
>http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

Isn't criticism widely accepted in making stuff better. You are
wrong, there is a difference from uninvited criticism and constructive
criticism. The West Brothers have invited both, and thus was my
point, their refusal to post updates, and the lame forum post was no
help. They ask, and they shall receive, I don't know why you stick up
for them so much, but no wonder they get criticized, even smaller game
makers give an update once a year...you just missed the point. Maybe
if they listened to what people where saying, that would change,
because as most intelligent people know, not all criticism is bad, in
fact it can help you live your life better, and work better.
Criticism is sometime referred to as advice, and I have just given you
some, stop sticking up for them...it will get you no where. I for one
can't wait for the product and will stand in line, but until it comes
out, and they provide more than a six month update, and prove
themselves to be more reputable than they have been in the past, I
will stay just as critical, as will 99.9 percent of this board, minus
you. Get your act straight, and stop sticking up for them. You have
no proof it exists either.

"What does a redneck say right before he dies? Hey y'all, watch this!"
-Michael Waltrip, August 22nd, 2003, Bristol

by **Internet Use** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:08:10

> http://www.west-racing.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=2395&s=d10c2...
> 21aab81405a1f78b915080

That's a great post. Do you think Empire bailed when they had to
repeatedly tell the West Brothers to produce some tangible code or when
they found out they wanted to model the Lotus team trailer from 1967?
Empire had no choice to fire the West brothers. They don't produce,
period. RL is their 3rd title. How many have you seen on store shelves?

by **Remco Moe** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:48:54

>>Date: 6/22/2004 4:42 PM Central Daylight Time

>>Hmm, I now get 'page cannot be displayed', it is
>>http://www.racing-legends.com/ that I'm supposed to be looking at isn't it?

>>Andi.

>Yeah, that's right. It's still working here. Not sure what's up or why that's
>happening. Strange :-)

DNS entries can take 48 hours before they're ready worldwide...

Cheers!

Remco

by **J. Todd Wass** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:56:48

>Date: 6/23/2004 3:48 AM Central Daylight Time

>>>Date: 6/22/2004 4:42 PM Central Daylight Time

>>>Hmm, I now get 'page cannot be displayed', it is
>>>http://www.racing-legends.com/ that I'm supposed to be looking at isn't it?

>>>Andi.

>>Yeah, that's right. It's still working here. Not sure what's up or why
>that's
>>happening. Strange :-)

>DNS entries can take 48 hours before they're ready worldwide...

>Cheers!

>Remco

Ah-ha! I knew there had to be a logical explanation. Thanks :-)

Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.com
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

by **John Simmon** » Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:42:05

I think *you'll* find that they started hyping this program a little
after GPL was released. That's certainly lonbger than just two years.

says...

> I think you'll find it's 2 years not 6.

> > How long has this project been "underway" now? Six years? That's simply
> > too ***ing long for ANY software project.