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I watched his lap and he was able to run flat out around corners using the
full gravel trap.No wheels on the track or rumble strip. I tried it and if I
got 2 wheels on the gravel I went off.

I dont get the point of playing if you cheat and I dont know how they do
this.

Seeing as I doubt anyone is still playing F1RC online, I'll assume you mean
F1C.

There is a known bug with the game where a connection hick-up will cause
someone to seem to do impossible times and follow impossible trajectories in
the game, the so-called speed bug. The person in question doesn't notice
this is happening, apparently (hasn't happened to me yet). Usually a
reconnect fixes it.

Jan.
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How do you *know* they're cheating?  Could just be a better setup, as in one
*designed* to do that.  Unless you're Huttu, Barty Mee, or a couple other
'aliens', someone is always better.  Sometimes by a LOT - even playing
honestly... :-(

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No, that is not it.

The 'real' record for this track is 1.08 or  1.09 so how can anyone get down
to a 1.02 legitimately.

You cant setup a car to run at 170 mph around a corner completelty in a
gravel trap whilst setting silly records. Someone has woked out a cheat for
this game.

   Real records rarely stand up to Good Simmers...We...I mean THEY don't
have to worry about dieing or repairing a torn up ***.  It's a rare sim
that has virtual records being similar to real world times.  
   However, your description of his driving style is suspicious.  One might
think he hacked the track.ini to have gravel=pavement.  But if that were
the case, then all the online drivers in that session would share in the
same benefit.  
        There are so many areas he could attack, i.e. tires, horsepower
suspension, by editing the car files, but the sim is 'supposed' to catch
those things.  Do you recall a bunch of server messages stateing things
like  Driver X is not compatible or Driver X has hdv file is bad?

dh

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Places where you can cheat giving more grip are terrain.ini and the
<track>.?db?  sorry forget the file suffix.  In these files you can
change the grip for your car on gravel, grass, even on the track itself
making it better.

For single player games changes would affect the AI cars but I believe
in multiplayer it is only the car of the person with the change that is
affected.  Though it may be that the files on the race-server determine
the settings for all.

In addition you can hack the car files .hdv to give your car a more
powerful engine or more aerodynamic efficiency.

A legitimate use for this would be to copy say the ferrari file to all
the other makes to make them identical. Allowing you to run a "fair"
race without everybody driving ferraris, which is a bit boring.

I had a guy whose car had the speed of an f16.  He was careful to drive
at little more than normal speed while aproaching someone from behind,
but would drive at over 350 kph when "unseen".  His only problem was
stoping for the corners.  I suspected something "strange" so i checked
the replay, which I still have, his engine was barely ticking over most
of the time.

A lot of the file mismatches are caused by mods.  But if I get someone
with a hdv or track mismatch who is doing record breaking times, I go
"onboard" with them in practice.  Of course some of these guys stay in
the pits during practice.

It is quite permissible to say that only players with no mismatches in
car and track files and terrain.ini are allowed in the race.

regards
Graham H