rec.autos.simulators

just a thought: How different the quality of programming really is
between different racing simulation programs!

What difficulties many of us have suffered with the otherwise
quite promising F1 2001!  And thanks to many, I can now
run it reasonably well. But lots of tweaking! And on the other
hand, how well the demo of the Rally Trophy installed itself!
At least for me it needed no tweaking! And quite the same with
GPL and N4..., well lots of "tweaking" later to make GPL even
better...

But back to F1 2001 and Rally Trophy: now I am very happy that
I can run F1 2001 so that in Monza the start is about 15 fps,
and then soon 20-25, and after a couple of turns, let us say
after the two Lesmos, about 30-45 fps. That's ok. But with Rally
Trophy demo straight "from the box" I get 40-60 fps' all the time
after the strange 10 to 25 at the very start. And the graphics
is really good! And actually the same comment applied also to N4,
when it came out.

In a way I think we do not even now have a "good modern F1 sim"!
Let us hope there will be a patch for F1 2001, which gives us
force feedback, AND also repairs the graphics engine: there
really has to be something very wrong in it now!

Arto

PS The Rally Trophy demo is really, REALLY promising! And I am not
   even very interested in rally - even after quite many Finnish
   championships...  Well, my first car, anyhow, was a Mini... ;-)
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David G Fisher

Jan.
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Ian P

<too absurd for words, eh? :>

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

David G Fisher

When F1 2000 came out I was really shocked at how slow it ran, and it was
unacceptable because the level of graphical detail didn't justify it, the 3d
engine was just plain unfinished and unoptimized.  However, to me F1 2001
has the most detailed tracks and cars i've seen, so the frame rate is
understandable.

F1RC runs a lot faster than F1 2001 also, but again has less detailed cars
and tracks.

Rally-type racing simulators have always been more PC-friendly (except that
crappy programming of CMR2).  You do not have any AI physics to model for
the most, and of course that means you do not have to model their 3d-shape
on screen.  Try some hotlapping in modern F1 sims and you'll have about the
same framerate.

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I thought F12001 didn't have good multiplayer options...?

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Any other experiences on resolution-scaling out there?

SB