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New video disappointment

Mitch_

New video disappointment

by Mitch_ » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:15:41

Just went out a bought a Pny Geforce 6800GT to replace my trusty 9700pro and
I must say it is quite a letdown.  Either the 9700P was wayyy ahead of its
time or Nvidia hasnt got their shit together yet.

The ONLY reason I went Nvidia is because of Linux support.

Mitch
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evente..

New video disappointment

by evente.. » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:27:31


> Just went out a bought a Pny Geforce 6800GT to replace my trusty
9700pro and
> I must say it is quite a letdown.  Either the 9700P was wayyy ahead
of its
> time or Nvidia hasnt got their shit together yet.

> The ONLY reason I went Nvidia is because of Linux support.

> Mitch
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Thanks for the info - I was thinking about a X800Pro vs 6800GT.  Guess
it's an X800Pro then (when the prices drop).

Kendt

redTe

New video disappointment

by redTe » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:55

You sure it's not something else in your system holding it back ?
Personally, I went for the X800 Pro, but the 6800GT is ,supposedly, very
quick.

Mitch_

New video disappointment

by Mitch_ » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:46:52


>> Just went out a bought a Pny Geforce 6800GT to replace my trusty 9700pro
>> and
>> I must say it is quite a letdown.  Either the 9700P was wayyy ahead of
>> its time or Nvidia hasnt got their shit together yet.

>> The ONLY reason I went Nvidia is because of Linux support.

> You sure it's not something else in your system holding it back ?
> Personally, I went for the X800 Pro, but the 6800GT is ,supposedly, very
> quick.

Yea Ted I had all intentions of going the X800Pro route but for a couple
minor reasons.  First was Linux compatibility and I do like the idea of the
shader 3.0 support and the benchmarks between the two come in very close.

Im gonna do a fresh OS install later today to verify.

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Larr

New video disappointment

by Larr » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:07:55

So THAT's why you have been giving us the cold-shoulder lately :)

-Larry


Uwe Schürkam

New video disappointment

by Uwe Schürkam » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:31:19


> The ONLY reason I went Nvidia is because of Linux support.

doesn't ATI provide drivers for Linux, too?

Cheers, uwe

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Mika Takal

New video disappointment

by Mika Takal » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:52:51

Yep, but those who have tried them will tell you to avoid ATI if you use
Linux.

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Mitch_

New video disappointment

by Mitch_ » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:25:59



>> The ONLY reason I went Nvidia is because of Linux support.

> doesn't ATI provide drivers for Linux, too?

> Cheers, uwe

Not for Xorg 6.8 just 6.7.  Soon though from what I hear.  I may take this
Nvidia back for an X800 if that happens soon.
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rms

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by rms » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:48:01

    There's nothing wrong with the 6800GT.  It's *twice* the speed of my old
9700pro.  No, nvidia can't do fsaa/aa to save their lives, but so what, I'd
rather run 1600x1200 anyway.

   At $350 5months ago it is and was the best perf/perf high-end card on the
market.  ATI completely botched the release of the X800XT in all
departments, from performance to price to availability.  It is only just now
that ATI is releasing a card, the X800XL, that matches the 6800GT, AND IT IS
PCI-E ONLY AND IS NOT YET AVAILABLE.

   The upshot is that MitchA is just as screwed up in his videocard opinions
as he is in supporting the ***-In-Chief.

rms

John Simmon

New video disappointment

by John Simmon » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:39:59




> > The ONLY reason I went Nvidia is because of Linux support.

> doesn't ATI provide drivers for Linux, too?

> Cheers, uwe

Yeah, but they haven't released anything for Xorg, so no accelerated 3D
for the ATI owners running the latest distros...
John Simmon

New video disappointment

by John Simmon » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:43:51



The 800XL (faster and cheaper than the X800 Pro) is supposed to be
available in AGP in March. I also heard the XL (PCI-E) is avaiable
now...

BTW, I saw CompUSA had a bunch of 800 Pros for $254.

Mitch_

New video disappointment

by Mitch_ » Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:05:56


>> So THAT's why you have been giving us the cold-shoulder lately :)

>     There's nothing wrong with the 6800GT.  It's *twice* the speed of my
>     old
> 9700pro.  No, nvidia can't do fsaa/aa to save their lives, but so what,
> I'd rather run 1600x1200 anyway.

>    At $350 5months ago it is and was the best perf/perf high-end card on
>    the
> market.  ATI completely botched the release of the X800XT in all
> departments, from performance to price to availability.  It is only just
> now that ATI is releasing a card, the X800XL, that matches the 6800GT, AND
> IT IS PCI-E ONLY AND IS NOT YET AVAILABLE.

>    The upshot is that MitchA is just as screwed up in his videocard
>    opinions
> as he is in supporting the ***-In-Chief.

> rms

Roger you wouldnt know twice as fast anything to save your life non driving
fool..  The 6800GT is like you LIBERAL ASSWIPES, lotsa talk but its all
BULLSHIT!

Mitch
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Mitch_

New video disappointment

by Mitch_ » Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:24:05




>> > So THAT's why you have been giving us the cold-shoulder lately :)

>>     There's nothing wrong with the 6800GT.  It's *twice* the speed of my
>>     old
>> 9700pro.  No, nvidia can't do fsaa/aa to save their lives, but so what,
>> I'd rather run 1600x1200 anyway.

>>    At $350 5months ago it is and was the best perf/perf high-end card on
>>    the
>> market.  ATI completely botched the release of the X800XT in all
>> departments, from performance to price to availability.  It is only just
>> now that ATI is releasing a card, the X800XL, that matches the 6800GT,
>> AND IT IS PCI-E ONLY AND IS NOT YET AVAILABLE.

> The 800XL (faster and cheaper than the X800 Pro) is supposed to be
> available in AGP in March. I also heard the XL (PCI-E) is avaiable
> now...

> BTW, I saw CompUSA had a bunch of 800 Pros for $254.

I just went to play a WMV9 video and suprise, it doesnt work on this POS
6800s Video Processor (the box clearly states wmv accell).  Nvidia is still
the same bunch of morons they were when they came out with the riva128 7-8
yrs ago.

$254 eh?  Going to check it out now.

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Mitch_

New video disappointment

by Mitch_ » Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:29:04


> BTW, I saw CompUSA had a bunch of 800 Pros for $254.

Im lookin but I dont see any pros for $254.  Do ya have a link or was it
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