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RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

Jeff Rei

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Jeff Rei » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:44:17

What is the purpose of publicly attacing warning icons to all
posts made by a member? Is this not an attempt to punish, or
in other words, to cause some level of "harm" to the victim
of your public warning policy?

Why isn't this public warning policy included in the new member
agreement so the new member knowingly gives up the right not
to be abused and harrased by the moderators of RSC?

I have never found another forum that does this. Can you point
out any other forums that have the same public warning policy
as yours? If there are other forums with such policies. are these
policies covered by disclaimers or agreements when a new
member joins?

jason moye

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by jason moye » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:31:21


> What is the purpose of publicly attacing warning icons to all
> posts made by a member? Is this not an attempt to punish, or
> in other words, to cause some level of "harm" to the victim
> of your public warning policy?

> Why isn't this public warning policy included in the new member
> agreement so the new member knowingly gives up the right not
> to be abused and harrased by the moderators of RSC?

> I have never found another forum that does this. Can you point
> out any other forums that have the same public warning policy
> as yours? If there are other forums with such policies. are these
> policies covered by disclaimers or agreements when a new
> member joins?

You should probably say this where someone from RSC may actually read
and reply to it.  Like a PM or email to a moderator or administrator.
Byron Forbe

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Byron Forbe » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:46:18



>> What is the purpose of publicly attacing warning icons to all
>> posts made by a member? Is this not an attempt to punish, or
>> in other words, to cause some level of "harm" to the victim
>> of your public warning policy?

>> Why isn't this public warning policy included in the new member
>> agreement so the new member knowingly gives up the right not
>> to be abused and harrased by the moderators of RSC?

>> I have never found another forum that does this. Can you point
>> out any other forums that have the same public warning policy
>> as yours? If there are other forums with such policies. are these
>> policies covered by disclaimers or agreements when a new
>> member joins?

> You should probably say this where someone from RSC may actually read
> and reply to it.  Like a PM or email to a moderator or administrator.

    No!  The theme here is to punish in public!

    LOL.

Jeff Rei

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Jeff Rei » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:50:17

Considering that an RSC moderator is already responding to posts
in the "RSC and their mods" thread here, I think this is the correct
place.

If they truly feel their public warning policy is justifiable, then
they should be willing to respond in a public forum as to the reasoning
and intent behind such a policy.

It's my belief that this policy is just a means for RSC moderators
to "punish" others, with the intent of inflicting some level (small)
of harm in retribution for anything they think violates their rules.
It's an undocumented policy that members only discover when they see
public warnings.

whoo

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by whoo » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:13:48


>>You should probably say this where someone from RSC may actually read
>>and reply to it.  Like a PM or email to a moderator or administrator.

> Considering that an RSC moderator is already responding to posts
> in the "RSC and their mods" thread here, I think this is the correct
> place.

> If they truly feel their public warning policy is justifiable, then
> they should be willing to respond in a public forum as to the reasoning
> and intent behind such a policy.

> It's my belief that this policy is just a means for RSC moderators
> to "punish" others, with the intent of inflicting some level (small)
> of harm in retribution for anything they think violates their rules.
> It's an undocumented policy that members only discover when they see
> public warnings.

You pose a fair question. I'd like to see some answers.
Kevin Clar

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Kevin Clar » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:43:26


> What is the purpose of publicly attacing warning icons to all
> posts made by a member? Is this not an attempt to punish, or
> in other words, to cause some level of "harm" to the victim
> of your public warning policy?

> Why isn't this public warning policy included in the new member
> agreement so the new member knowingly gives up the right not
> to be abused and harrased by the moderators of RSC?

> I have never found another forum that does this. Can you point
> out any other forums that have the same public warning policy
> as yours? If there are other forums with such policies. are these
> policies covered by disclaimers or agreements when a new
> member joins?

It's called forum software.
Most forums, (vB, phpBB, invision) that have user warning systems
installed will auto tag it to the users posts. They can't just stick it
on one post. That's not how the forum software works.

BTW I am a mod on RSC and a awful lot of discussion goes on about posts
and posters before someone gets a warning. They aren't given out for a
laugh.

Dave Henri

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:53:13


gui.ntli.net:

   Why is it so hard to understand that RSC owners can do anything they
want?  If you come to visit my house and I don't like the color of your
shirt, I can ask you to leave.  We are guests at RSC and dozens of other
sites.  For WHATEVER reason, they can do what they wish.  Fairness,
publicness, this has absolutely NO bearing on the matter.  
   They could call any of us green toads and that would be just as fair as
having a public warning system.  They have no responsibility to us.  We are
guests.  A fine lot this is..."Thanks for the Cheese mate, it's a pity the
crackers have too much starch in them."

  If you want to***and moan, then become a stockholder.  And no, I don't
care if you didn't know.  I don't care if you were only a ***y tiny bit
over the line.  IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.

  Remind me never to have this lot over for drinks.  Good Day.

Dave Henrie

Byron Forbe

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Byron Forbe » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:09:40


    But they could simply not use it. Seems it's just being used because
it's there. No need to be so prone to the power of suggestion!

    I think you should have a very short discussion about whether to use
this "feature" of that wonderful software that concludes with "No, we
shouldn't!". :)

Daru

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Daru » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:15:09

It's good to see that some ppl. don't have short fuses......<rollseyes>
Jeff Rei

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Jeff Rei » Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:32:33

Name one other forum that uses this warning system. If such
a forum exists, does it disclose to its members that it uses
such a warning system? At RSC there's no such discloser.

Why is it that RSC is the only forum using the feature then? I've
never seen it used anywhere else, and it still doesn't answer my
question. What is is the purpose and intent of these public warnings,
if not to punish?

I find it hard to believe that any discussion occurred before I
got a warning about posting a link to the DC F1 hotlap video, and that
no one considered providing me reasonable time to show that it was
OK to post a link to that video. Note that I had posted a link
to that video several times before at RSC and never received a complaint.
Did anyone at RSC really think their web site would be jepordized
by having a link to that video?

alex martin

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by alex martin » Wed, 24 Aug 2005 03:14:10


Rubbish Clark - why is there a post about me - a member that has been
banned, and posted weeks AFTER I was banned - alleging that I "said" I had
lied about my article in AutoSimSport, and confessing to being a "lying"
"immoral" "filth"?

And since RSC chooses to allow its admins free access to libelous posts such
as this, why don't you allow me to defend myself in public - or is it just
RSC policy to ban editors of other magazines, then begiun a smeer campaign
against them ...

Please ... don't hide behind legality when you know full well that libel and
illegal posts and acts of speech are fully acceptable at RSC as long as the
target and victim is outside the 'clique'.

alex martin

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by alex martin » Wed, 24 Aug 2005 03:24:22


You need to distinguish between moderators and moderators at RSC - most
couldn't give a shit about this kind of offensive nonsense.

The best way to discuss RSC is to name those that are behind these
decisions. Because the majoroity of RSC mods don't know and don't care about
the running of RSC - they're just doing a job for the good of the community.
Then there is the small minority led by John Schoen and others that are
doing a job ON the community.

Scirocc

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Scirocc » Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:58:30


Loooooong time reader, I just never feel the need to post. :D

I couldn't tell you what the reason is.  It's been that way since before I
was a member.

Byron Forbe

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by Byron Forbe » Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:38:43


    I want to see them jump over the moon then!

alex martin

RSC moderators - what is the purpose of the public warnings?

by alex martin » Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:13:41




>>   Why is it so hard to understand that RSC owners can do anything they
>> want?

>    I want to see them jump over the moon then!

lol - but would they want to?

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