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Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

Bill Bollinge

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Bill Bollinge » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Would anyone like to see us start tracking stats for GPL like we do for N3
at www.raceserver.net?

If you do, please let us know.  I for one don't have much of an idea as to
what type of results files GPL produces, but I assume that after each race
that GPL produces a results file that we could use to generate stats for all
the races.  If you are interested in a stat system like this, please respond
in this newsgroup not via e-mail.

You can also talk about what type of ranking "system" you would like to see
as well.

Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard

Lawrence Holber

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Lawrence Holber » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Lots of folks would like to see this.  This would be excellent Bill!


Chris Bloo

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Chris Bloo » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Could you please give us some sort of hint so we know what you
are talking about please?

Chris



>Just curious....how many people have asked about this? I
remember emailing
>you fellas about it, but that was a bit back.

>It seems very promising, and at least some sort of tracking
could be
>developed, but as both sims are made by Sierra (albeit
different game
>engines, the results files might be the same) hope certainly
does shine
>brighter than defeat.

>Good luck fellas,

>Ryan Murray

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David L. Co

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by David L. Co » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

YES!  I would be extatic to be able to race in a USAC type oval league
with GPL using your ratings system.  I think their might be some N3
racers out there as well that would be into this.

Of course the road courses would be just as popular - but right now I'm
in oval mode.  Nascar is HOT and I'm already looking forward to N4.  
Driving my Eagle around Texas or Bristol on the edge of adhesion***
on for my life is VERY fun.  The AI on these ovals stinks though, and
nobody on VROC does ovals anymore.

Thanks for your consideration Amish.  Your work is appreciated :)

--David Cook



> Would anyone like to see us start tracking stats for GPL like we do for N3
> at www.raceserver.net?

> If you do, please let us know.  I for one don't have much of an idea as to
> what type of results files GPL produces, but I assume that after each race
> that GPL produces a results file that we could use to generate stats for all
> the races.  If you are interested in a stat system like this, please respond
> in this newsgroup not via e-mail.

> You can also talk about what type of ranking "system" you would like to see
> as well.

> Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard

Ryan Murra

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Ryan Murra » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Just curious....how many people have asked about this? I remember emailing
you fellas about it, but that was a bit back.

It seems very promising, and at least some sort of tracking could be
developed, but as both sims are made by Sierra (albeit different game
engines, the results files might be the same) hope certainly does shine
brighter than defeat.

Good luck fellas,

Ryan Murray

David Thirio

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by David Thirio » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Been a long time coming. I would love to see stats. Seems to me like stats
bring out the best in racers. Bad days are not as easily forgotten.

LL

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by LL » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

YES !!!!
Mike Barlo

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Mike Barlo » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

    The big thing about TEN was that, example..,  I could run a race all by
my self and get "scored" for a win and if I didn't hit any walls, I would
get scored for LPI.  Not long after this was brought up on the NG's at that
time.. TEN set the system up so that a race could only happen if there were
two or more drivers in the race.  The fewer drivers in each race equals a
lesser chance for accidents.

    So, If some kind of a ranking system were to be used you might want to
think about adjusting *all* numbers for the number of drivers in each race.
I.E.  The more drivers in a race equals the more points possible to be made.
Maybe something like if there's not 10 drivers that start the race, nothing
is scored.

    What ever system you end up using, I'll be among many that will take
*advantage* of the system!!  so, It had better be fool proof if you do
anything.  Advantage meaning, If I can get a higher LPI just by lapping by
my self, I'll do a couple hundred laps by my self.. ect.. ect..

--
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Mike Barlow
Owner/Driver of Barlow Racing http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Marketing Director ZGN http://www.racesimcentral.net/
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>YES!  I would be extatic to be able to race in a USAC type oval league
>with GPL using your ratings system.  I think their might be some N3
>racers out there as well that would be into this.

>Of course the road courses would be just as popular - but right now I'm
>in oval mode.  Nascar is HOT and I'm already looking forward to N4.
>Driving my Eagle around Texas or Bristol on the edge of adhesion***
>on for my life is VERY fun.  The AI on these ovals stinks though, and
>nobody on VROC does ovals anymore.

>Thanks for your consideration Amish.  Your work is appreciated :)

>--David Cook



>> Would anyone like to see us start tracking stats for GPL like we do for
N3
>> at www.raceserver.net?

>> If you do, please let us know.  I for one don't have much of an idea as
to
>> what type of results files GPL produces, but I assume that after each
race
>> that GPL produces a results file that we could use to generate stats for
all
>> the races.  If you are interested in a stat system like this, please
respond
>> in this newsgroup not via e-mail.

>> You can also talk about what type of ranking "system" you would like to
see
>> as well.

>> Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard

Mike Barlo

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Mike Barlo » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

    before anyone starts yelling and screaming...  Anything that I find that
can easily be manipulated.. I'll post here so that everyone can take
advantage of it.  Then the only thing would be.. who can take advantage of
it the most! ;-)

--


>    The big thing about TEN was that, example..,  I could run a race all by
>my self and get "scored" for a win and if I didn't hit any walls, I would
>get scored for LPI.  Not long after this was brought up on the NG's at that
>time.. TEN set the system up so that a race could only happen if there were
>two or more drivers in the race.  The fewer drivers in each race equals a
>lesser chance for accidents.

>    So, If some kind of a ranking system were to be used you might want to
>think about adjusting *all* numbers for the number of drivers in each race.
>I.E.  The more drivers in a race equals the more points possible to be
made.
>Maybe something like if there's not 10 drivers that start the race, nothing
>is scored.

>    What ever system you end up using, I'll be among many that will take
>*advantage* of the system!!  so, It had better be fool proof if you do
>anything.  Advantage meaning, If I can get a higher LPI just by lapping by
>my self, I'll do a couple hundred laps by my self.. ect.. ect..

>--

Bill Bollinger - Team Brickyar

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Bill Bollinger - Team Brickyar » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Mike, to clear your mind.  Right now at Raceserver.net the minimum racers
needed in a race to have it even score is 10 racers.  We can set that
minimum number of racers to any number you guys want.  We can also restrict
the rankings to be on only certain servers that meet whatever criteria you
guys want.

Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard


>     The big thing about TEN was that, example..,  I could run a race all
by
> my self and get "scored" for a win and if I didn't hit any walls, I would
> get scored for LPI.  Not long after this was brought up on the NG's at
that
> time.. TEN set the system up so that a race could only happen if there
were
> two or more drivers in the race.  The fewer drivers in each race equals a
> lesser chance for accidents.

>     So, If some kind of a ranking system were to be used you might want to
> think about adjusting *all* numbers for the number of drivers in each
race.
> I.E.  The more drivers in a race equals the more points possible to be
made.
> Maybe something like if there's not 10 drivers that start the race,
nothing
> is scored.

>     What ever system you end up using, I'll be among many that will take
> *advantage* of the system!!  so, It had better be fool proof if you do
> anything.  Advantage meaning, If I can get a higher LPI just by lapping by
> my self, I'll do a couple hundred laps by my self.. ect.. ect..

> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----------------------------------------
> Mike Barlow
> Owner/Driver of Barlow Racing http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Marketing Director ZGN http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> -----------------------------------------

> >YES!  I would be extatic to be able to race in a USAC type oval league
> >with GPL using your ratings system.  I think their might be some N3
> >racers out there as well that would be into this.

> >Of course the road courses would be just as popular - but right now I'm
> >in oval mode.  Nascar is HOT and I'm already looking forward to N4.
> >Driving my Eagle around Texas or Bristol on the edge of adhesion***
> >on for my life is VERY fun.  The AI on these ovals stinks though, and
> >nobody on VROC does ovals anymore.

> >Thanks for your consideration Amish.  Your work is appreciated :)

> >--David Cook



> >> Would anyone like to see us start tracking stats for GPL like we do for
> N3
> >> at www.raceserver.net?

> >> If you do, please let us know.  I for one don't have much of an idea as
> to
> >> what type of results files GPL produces, but I assume that after each
> race
> >> that GPL produces a results file that we could use to generate stats
for
> all
> >> the races.  If you are interested in a stat system like this, please
> respond
> >> in this newsgroup not via e-mail.

> >> You can also talk about what type of ranking "system" you would like to
> see
> >> as well.

> >> Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard

Mike Barlo

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Mike Barlo » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

    That's a step in the right direction :-)


Michae

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Michae » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Hmmm- wasn't that supposed to be a "secret" number according to the message
boards for N3??? - lol - man, do I feel privledged now!

FastCo

Peter Ive

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Peter Ive » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00



I think the easiest system would be to score from the bottom up.  So
that if you are last you get 1 point say and then 2 points for second
last 3 for 3rd last etc, increasing up to say 40 points for being 20th
from last.  In this way there is no first place as such, just more
points for being further from last place, so that winning in a 5 car
race will only score say 5 points whereas winning in a 20 car race
scores 40 points because the winner is further away from last place.
Hope that makes sense.  :)

I think any system would be an enhancement and could possible encourage
drivers not to drop out after a lap just because they got a bad start or
went off and lost a few places.

>    What ever system you end up using, I'll be among many that will take
>*advantage* of the system!!  so, It had better be fool proof if you do
>anything.  Advantage meaning, If I can get a higher LPI just by lapping by
>my self, I'll do a couple hundred laps by my self.. ect.. ect..

>--
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----------------------------------------
>Mike Barlow
>Owner/Driver of Barlow Racing http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>Marketing Director ZGN http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-----------------------------------------

>>YES!  I would be extatic to be able to race in a USAC type oval league
>>with GPL using your ratings system.  I think their might be some N3
>>racers out there as well that would be into this.

>>Of course the road courses would be just as popular - but right now I'm
>>in oval mode.  Nascar is HOT and I'm already looking forward to N4.
>>Driving my Eagle around Texas or Bristol on the edge of adhesion***
>>on for my life is VERY fun.  The AI on these ovals stinks though, and
>>nobody on VROC does ovals anymore.

>>Thanks for your consideration Amish.  Your work is appreciated :)

>>--David Cook



>>> Would anyone like to see us start tracking stats for GPL like we do for
>N3
>>> at www.raceserver.net?

>>> If you do, please let us know.  I for one don't have much of an idea as
>to
>>> what type of results files GPL produces, but I assume that after each
>race
>>> that GPL produces a results file that we could use to generate stats for
>all
>>> the races.  If you are interested in a stat system like this, please
>respond
>>> in this newsgroup not via e-mail.

>>> You can also talk about what type of ranking "system" you would like to
>see
>>> as well.

>>> Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard

--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Mike Barlo

Raceserver.net Stats for GPL?

by Mike Barlo » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00

    Good idea!!  If I read the repost to my post from the original writer,
We are able to set up separate rankings for individual leagues?  If so, then
your suggestion as an "Over all" ranking sounds good for finishing
positions.  The leagues (if above is true) would naturally have their own
stat's and would help separate those that run nothing but pickup races and
those that run league races.

    Next Stat. I'd like to see is something that differentiates those that
drive F1 exclusively, those that drive F2 exclusively, and again F3's
exclusively.  I do run a rare F1 and a rare F2.  But since I don't run them
enough to build experience in them, I'd be right at the very bottom of any
ranking system.  However, if there was something for the F3's, I'd be
fighting several others for the number one position in the ranks.  Another
words, just because I'm #1 in the over all ranking system doesn't mean I can
make it past the start line in an F1.  If you can understand what I'm
saying.

    Now, all those statistics suggest that if you finish first more then
anyone else, you are the top dog!  But what about people like (I wont
mention the S name)? <g>  Those that take 90% of the field out then end up
with a win?  Again, there's another table.. Novice races, Inter.. Races, and
Pro Races.  Just an opinion, but I wouldn't have any kind of a ranking for
Novice,  But I would the other two.

    I'll stop there because If I don't I'll easily fill 20 megs worth of
text ;-)


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