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Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

Gordo

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Gordo » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:50:58

There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully...

AMD 1.2
Abit KT7-R (no Raid)
256 mb
LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver
SB Live value
Win 2K

Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a
1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is
in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple
posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and
patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini
and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin'

One would think even choosing the software renderer during install
would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash
screen!

There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice
appreciated.

GPLless in Baltimore

Simon Brow

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Simon Brow » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:02:45

...use a *** OS?


Gordo

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Gordo » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:10:58

Hey Slim, I'm not looking for snide remarks, just a little help.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:02:45 GMT, "Simon Brown"


>...use a *** OS?



>> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully...

>> AMD 1.2
>> Abit KT7-R (no Raid)
>> 256 mb
>> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver
>> SB Live value
>> ***Win 2K***

><snip>

Simon Brow

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Simon Brow » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:50:04

Sorry about the remark, wasn't really necessary, but Win2k isn't really for
games, let alone 3 year old games with beta renderers.

Check out the GeForce FAQ at http://www.geforcefaq.com/ and maybe you could
try the last official driver release from nVidia (6.50 for Win2K).  Also,
since the game won't work with the software renderer, that suggests it could
be something other than the GF2, like maybe the Live.  Creative's Win2K Live
drivers have a bad reputation.  Is it possible to disable the sound card and
try GPL without it?


Gordo

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Gordo » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 11:20:59

Thanks for the tips however been there done that. Tried Nvidia 6.50,
7.58, 10.80 and 11.01 drivers. Suffered thru the trials and
tribulations of Creative drivers, am having good luck currently with
the generic Win 2K drivers. Honestly, I appreciate your input. It's
frustrating though finally getting around to building a PC that will
run GPL, but now it won't. N4, 65 fps all day long with a full
field... RC 2000 not nary a flicker with the settings maxed out...GPL,
I see a 1/2 second of the splash screen...ARGHHH!

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:50:04 GMT, "Simon Brown"


>Sorry about the remark, wasn't really necessary, but Win2k isn't really for
>games, let alone 3 year old games with beta renderers.

>Check out the GeForce FAQ at http://www.geforcefaq.com/ and maybe you could
>try the last official driver release from nVidia (6.50 for Win2K).  Also,
>since the game won't work with the software renderer, that suggests it could
>be something other than the GF2, like maybe the Live.  Creative's Win2K Live
>drivers have a bad reputation.  Is it possible to disable the sound card and
>try GPL without it?

Doug Hoo

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Doug Hoo » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:37:58

I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and Win98se
with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the
problem. Just a guess though.


Gordo

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Gordo » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:09:01

I suspect the same...Even the demo won't run...One would think there
are other fans running a GF2/Win 2K setup successfully. Maybe not. At
this point I sure in the hell can't...I had the demo running (barely)
a couple years back  on a 98se/200mhz/64mb clone and a Canopus 6mb
daughter card. Poor FPS held me back from moving to the full version.

Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till
something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:37:58 GMT, "Doug Hook"


>I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and Win98se
>with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the
>problem. Just a guess though.



>> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully...

>> AMD 1.2
>> Abit KT7-R (no Raid)
>> 256 mb
>> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver
>> SB Live value
>> Win 2K

>> Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a
>> 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is
>> in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple
>> posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and
>> patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini
>> and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin'

>> One would think even choosing the software renderer during install
>> would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash
>> screen!

>> There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice
>> appreciated.

>> GPLless in Baltimore

Dave Henri

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Dave Henri » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:08:16

  I don't even know if it was this thread, but somebody mentioned right
clicking on the
file and choosing win98 compatibility mode or something like that...have ya
tried that
yet?
dave henrie

> I suspect the same...Even the demo won't run...One would think there
> are other fans running a GF2/Win 2K setup successfully. Maybe not. At
> this point I sure in the hell can't...I had the demo running (barely)
> a couple years back  on a 98se/200mhz/64mb clone and a Canopus 6mb
> daughter card. Poor FPS held me back from moving to the full version.

> Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till
> something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done.

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:37:58 GMT, "Doug Hook"

> >I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and
Win98se
> >with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the
> >problem. Just a guess though.



> >> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully...

> >> AMD 1.2
> >> Abit KT7-R (no Raid)
> >> 256 mb
> >> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver
> >> SB Live value
> >> Win 2K

> >> Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a
> >> 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is
> >> in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple
> >> posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and
> >> patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini
> >> and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin'

> >> One would think even choosing the software renderer during install
> >> would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash
> >> screen!

> >> There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice
> >> appreciated.

> >> GPLless in Baltimore

Ian

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Ian » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:58:48

Try running win 2000 in safe mode and see if GPL will start in software
mode, that may rule out any driver problems.
I'm running GPL on win2000 on 2 PCs, 1 is a celeron 466 with a V3 3000 and
SB PCI  card 128MB  RAM, the other is an Athlon 750 with V4 4500 and an SB
Live 1024 with the latest drivers.
All I can say is that GPL will run in Win2000, but it can take a bit of
persuading.

Are you using NTFS or FAT32 ? some people havereported problems getting GPL
to run with NTFS, though my celeron system is NTFS.

If all else fails, maybe you could use a dual boot system, 98 for games and
win2k for all the other stuff.

--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>


> Thanks for the tips however been there done that. Tried Nvidia 6.50,
> 7.58, 10.80 and 11.01 drivers. Suffered thru the trials and
> tribulations of Creative drivers, am having good luck currently with
> the generic Win 2K drivers. Honestly, I appreciate your input. It's
> frustrating though finally getting around to building a PC that will
> run GPL, but now it won't. N4, 65 fps all day long with a full
> field... RC 2000 not nary a flicker with the settings maxed out...GPL,
> I see a 1/2 second of the splash screen...ARGHHH!

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:50:04 GMT, "Simon Brown"

> >Sorry about the remark, wasn't really necessary, but Win2k isn't really
for
> >games, let alone 3 year old games with beta renderers.

> >Check out the GeForce FAQ at http://www.geforcefaq.com/ and maybe you
could
> >try the last official driver release from nVidia (6.50 for Win2K).  Also,
> >since the game won't work with the software renderer, that suggests it
could
> >be something other than the GF2, like maybe the Live.  Creative's Win2K
Live
> >drivers have a bad reputation.  Is it possible to disable the sound card
and
> >try GPL without it?

Jeffrey Row

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Jeffrey Row » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:36:23

I assure you it can be done. I gather my ini files didn't help you.
What about reinstalling w2k? A desperate measure, to be sure, but one
that might work. NTFS isn't your problem, and neither is the video card.
I run 2k sp1 with nVidia GeForce2 GTS, dual 800 PIIIs, 768 MB rdram, and
ultra 160 scsi. Sound is Crystal SoundFusion. Don't even think of installing
Windows 98 on your box. I run Windows Me on a 1.4 P4, and it's slower than
the dual 800.

Have you tried removing the sound card?

--Jeff


> I suspect the same...Even the demo won't run...One would think there
> are other fans running a GF2/Win 2K setup successfully. Maybe not. At
> this point I sure in the hell can't...I had the demo running (barely)
> a couple years back  on a 98se/200mhz/64mb clone and a Canopus 6mb
> daughter card. Poor FPS held me back from moving to the full version.

> Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till
> something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done.

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:37:58 GMT, "Doug Hook"

> >I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and
Win98se
> >with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the
> >problem. Just a guess though.



> >> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully...

> >> AMD 1.2
> >> Abit KT7-R (no Raid)
> >> 256 mb
> >> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver
> >> SB Live value
> >> Win 2K

> >> Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a
> >> 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is
> >> in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple
> >> posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and
> >> patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini
> >> and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin'

> >> One would think even choosing the software renderer during install
> >> would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash
> >> screen!

> >> There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice
> >> appreciated.

> >> GPLless in Baltimore

Scott Boha

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Scott Boha » Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:29:53


How can you be so sure?  Straight after installing Win2K I try GPL in
software mode and it doesn't work.  Same thing exactly on my other machine.
NTFS and FAT32 both do the same, any number of drivers / patches / whatever
don't seem to make any difference whatsoever.

I am back running Win98 now, everything runs fine, especially GPL!!

Some Call Me Ti

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Some Call Me Ti » Tue, 01 May 2001 02:19:04


256mb ram, IDE hardware raid 0, SBlive, GeForce DDR (currently with 7.58
drivers) and NTFS. GPL does run very well on Win2K and a lot better than ME.

I did get the same problem as you for a short while but it stopped of it's
own accord. Because I am constanly tweaking and fiddling about it could have
been any one of a number of things which fixed it.

However it only ever happened when the desktop was in 32bit, all I had to do
was swap to 16bit and run GPL again.

You could try switching off as many services as possible and end any
programs you have in the background which may help.

Here's my core.ini if that helps.

[ Int Profile Values ]
value0 = OpenGL:TossHighestMip:0         ; do not change
value1 = OpenGL:MipFiltering:0                ; do not change
value2 = OpenGL:MirrorsEvery:1              ; do not change
value3 = Direct3D7:D3DDevice:0
value4 = Direct3D7:TossHighestMip:0
value5 = Direct3D7:TrilinearFiltering:0
value6 = Direct3D7:DoubleMirrorResWidth:0
value7 = Direct3D7:DoubleMirrorResHeight:0
value8 = Direct3D7:DirectMirrorRendering:0
value9 = Direct3D7:DisableZBuffer:0

[ Direct3D7 ]
D3DDevice = 0
TossHighestMip = 0
TrilinearFiltering = 1
DoubleMirrorResWidth = 1
DoubleMirrorResHeight = 1
DirectMirrorRendering = 1
DisableZBuffer = 0

[ OpenGL ]
TossHighestMip = 0                       ;
MipFiltering = 4                        ;
MirrorsEvery = 1                        ;

[ Joy ]
allow_force_feedback = 1

force_feedback_latency = 0.0002  ; in seconds
force_feedback_damping = 150  ; magic number2
max_steering_torque = 230             ; in Newton-inches

[Rasterizer]
fullScreen = 1

Hopefully with some fiddling you should be up and running with some minor
fiddling around.

--
Some Call Me Tim

Jussi 'Igor' Koukk

Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

by Jussi 'Igor' Koukk » Tue, 01 May 2001 20:55:47


Yup... I have it running on P3-600, V3 3k PCI, Win2k... but having problems
with sound. I.e. sometimes GPL goes silent while driving and I have to
restart the game to get the sounds back. No probs under Win98.

I got GPL to run on Win2k after installing GPL first under Win98 on the same
machine, then applying the latest patches (1.2.0.1 + Glide2x patch). After
that I renamed the GPL directory (c:\sierra -> c:\sierra.bak) and installed
the game under Win2k to c:\sierra. Then I deleted the c:\sierra directory
and renamed c:\sierra.bak back to c:\sierra... a bit complicated, but now I
can run GPL from both systems using the same installation :)

- Igor -


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