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Killing processes

Richard S Becket

Killing processes

by Richard S Becket » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:09:32

Guys,

Before installing my new graphics card, I knew which processes were running,
to do with my mouse, external cdrom writer and scanner, and I could kill
them off easily enough with ctrl-alt-delete.

Now, there's an extra one running, rundll32.

This is making my machine hang when I try to kill it, and even when I try to
kill some of the other processes that I used to be able to kill, the machine
hangs.

Does anyone know what's going on?

Thanks,

R.

Richard S Becket

Killing processes

by Richard S Becket » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:19:06

Well...actually, it's RUNDLL32.

Ashley McConnel

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by Ashley McConnel » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:42:40

Don't be messing with that ;)

Its a pretty important part of the operating system IIRC

All the best,
Ash

Richard S Becket

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by Richard S Becket » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:58:26

Oh. Well, why wasn't it _ever_ running before I installed by new GFX card,
and now, suddenly, it's _always_ there?

R.

Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:41:47

Probably the drivers of your new graphics card use rundll32 to run one of
the utilities/add-ons or whatever it wants to run. Rundll32 doesn't do
anything for you except, run something else, i.e. system services, etc.

If you kill rundll32 while that other item is running, this can indeed hang
the system.

Maybe check which additional stuff is running since you installed the
graphics card (check all the Autostart locations, the various Run keys, the
Autostart folder etc.).

Achim



Steve Blankenshi

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by Steve Blankenshi » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:56:09



GeForce card, right?  Achim's right; they use that for something, though I
forget what - just leave it running.
Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:57:33

I'm at work, so I can't check, but, from memory, there is some stuff that
runs via rundll32 on start up (nvctrl or something), but only then. I.e. it
doesn't show in my
Task list if I check afterward. You can find it via msconfig. I've thought
about disabling it,
but seeing as it doesn't show once the system is "up", I've left it as is so
far. Perhaps on Richard's install rundll32 is not shut down/unloaded
properly and he could try disabling it via msconfig.

Jan.
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Richard S Becket

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by Richard S Becket » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:19:54

Ah.

I think I'll try re-installing the drivers, then. That way, I can see if it
goes when they're uninstalled.

R.


Doug Hoo

Killing processes

by Doug Hoo » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:53:38

Why are you using ctrl-alt-del to close processes? Download enditall2 and do
it with 2 or 3 clicks. Enditall will not kill any processes that are vital.
I think enditall is the best software on my machine.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,697,00.asp



mcwho

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by mcwho » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:03:43

rundll32 is a parrt of the OS, it is actually a subprocess that allows
running applications to access the dll library, Basically it allows a
program to access(talk to) other parts of your computer.  Say, your graphics
card uses some of the page file memory to keep large textures that are
repetitive, so instead of reloading that large texture file showing you
trees in turn three, it can park that in the page file and grab it each
time.  makes your application run smoother.  Here is about the simplist
description I found with a quick search.

rundll32 - rundll32.exe - Process Information
Process File: rundll32 or rundll32.exe
Process Name: Windows RUNDLL32 Helper
Description: The Windows Rundll32 Program is used to run DLLs as programs
and is used by many programs to execute functions located in a DLL file
Common Errors: N/A
System Process: No

I would leave that running as the hit on system resources should be minimal

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McWhom
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Alan Bernard

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by Alan Bernard » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:45:54


I don't think so.  It's not running on my end.  Try going to START>RUN and
type in MSCONFIG.  Then go to the "startup" tab and unclick what needs to be
unclicked.  I have nothing starting at boot.  Also, you can go to CONTROL
PANEL and "Administrative Tools", then "Services".  You shouldn't have much
running there either.  I might have about 8 processes running, mostly having
to do with my LAN, the Internet, and the file system.

Try going to http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

and find out what all these processes are.

Alanb

Larr

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by Larr » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:59:20

RunDLL32 is used to execute procedures inside of DLL files.  The operating
System uses it, and so do applications.

RunDLL32 is almost never the actual problem.  Something is calling RunDLL32
to execute a procedure inside of a DLL file, and _that procedure_ is what is
mucking things up.

This one can be a tough nut to crack.

-Larry



Larr

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by Larr » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:03:37

Ok, I believe NVCTRL is related to Norton AntiVirus...

This one sounds familiar to me...

If you go to Google and search for RUNDLL32 and then the process that is
*** up, I have no doubt you'll get 1000 hits back with solutions.

Google is your friend :)

-Larry


Larr

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by Larr » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:04:33

Wait!  Now that I think about it, NV relates to the NView portion of the
nVidia drivers, not Norton AntiVirus.

-Larry

jason moy

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by jason moy » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:32:44


>Ok, I believe NVCTRL is related to Norton AntiVirus...

AFAIK, it's just the nvidia control panel applet.  I don't use NAV,
and after installing Detonator drivers it appears in msconfig.  I've
never had a problem with it disabled, also.

Jason


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