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GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

Adrian Vesnav

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Adrian Vesnav » Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I attended the recent Hometech Computer show in Adelaide and they had a
beta version of GP2 runnning. I was able to play it and it was brilliant.
I drove in Adelaide, and Canada so I'm only able to comment on these
tracks. These are some of the things I noticed and found out:

- Graphics are greatly improved
- Sand traps slow the car down and make it bump all over the place.
- Hit a ripple-strip and the car gets very upset.
- Spin outs are much more realistic.
- If you're on the grass and you floor it, the wheels spin and you get no
where (very realistic).
- Belgium track still has bugs in it.
- Pit graphics have been updated and there are more config options.
- Better engine and brake noises. You can here when you lock up a wheel.
Unfortunately the sound levels kept changing randomly.
- Based on 1995 season.

Oponents:
- Will let you pass if you have racing line or are lapping them.
- Unfortunately the still block the whole track and won't let you get
past if they have a crash.

The game was running on a P120 and had about 16mb of RAM. It was
very-very slow (but not jerky) around most of the Adelaide circuit, even
though it was in VGA mode. There was no real sense of speed. You will
probably need a p166 to run it at full detail in VGA mode. It looks like
you'll need a p6 to run it in SVGA. Its Australian release date will be
sometime in late April/early May. The Oz distributer is SEGA and they are
the ones who provided the beta for the display at the computer show.

Adrian

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Carlos Miguel Cordei

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Carlos Miguel Cordei » Sat, 23 Mar 1996 04:00:00


> ....
>The game was running on a P120 and had about 16mb of RAM. It was
>very-very slow (but not jerky) around most of the Adelaide circuit, even
>though it was in VGA mode. There was no real sense of speed. You will
>probably need a p166 to run it at full detail in VGA mode. It looks like
>you'll need a p6 to run it in SVGA. Its Australian release date will be
>sometime in late April/early May. The Oz distributer is SEGA and they are
>the ones who provided the beta for the display at the computer show.
>Adrian

I hope this is an old demo.  I cant imagine that most game magazines
have been lying about the performance of GP2 (especially PC Gamer and
Edge magazine).

A P120 with 16mb is very-very slow in VGA mode ??????  With an 100%
assembly graphics engine !!!!     I cant believe it  !

Must be an old non-official demo. Last thing SH-MP want to do is to
frustate our expectations. If they force the magazines to state
performances that are pretty good, then, I dont believe they could
authorize the showing of old and slow demos. It is ridiculous at this
time of the championship to show such slow demos.  

On the other hand, may be Geoff C. is having difficult on making GP2
run well on current machines. Yes, ok ... but to run very slow on a
P120 in VGA ... thats too much.
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Tim Olso

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Tim Olso » Sat, 23 Mar 1996 04:00:00


>A P120 with 16mb is very-very slow in VGA mode ??????  With an 100%
>assembly graphics engine !!!!     I cant believe it  !

>Must be an old non-official demo. Last thing SH-MP want to do is to
>frustate our expectations. If they force the magazines to state
>performances that are pretty good, then, I dont believe they could
>authorize the showing of old and slow demos. It is ridiculous at this
>time of the championship to show such slow demos.  

>On the other hand, may be Geoff C. is having difficult on making GP2
>run well on current machines. Yes, ok ... but to run very slow on a
>P120 in VGA ... thats too much.

I guess we'll just have to wait until GP2 comes out to see what its like. One
person says you'll need a 486 with 8 megs of RAM for the VGA mode, while
another says that you'll need a Pentium 120 with 16 megs of RAM. One person
says that a magazine said that GP 2 is the best game ever, while another
person says that a magazine says that GP 2 is the biggest ***ever.
Chris Lindro

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Chris Lindro » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00



>> ....
>>The game was running on a P120 and had about 16mb of RAM. It was
>>very-very slow (but not jerky) around most of the Adelaide circuit, even
>>though it was in VGA mode. There was no real sense of speed. You will
>>probably need a p166 to run it at full detail in VGA mode. It looks like
>>you'll need a p6 to run it in SVGA. Its Australian release date will be
>>sometime in late April/early May. The Oz distributer is SEGA and they are
>>the ones who provided the beta for the display at the computer show.
>>Adrian
>I hope this is an old demo.  I cant imagine that most game magazines
>have been lying about the performance of GP2 (especially PC Gamer and
>Edge magazine).
>A P120 with 16mb is very-very slow in VGA mode ??????  With an 100%
>assembly graphics engine !!!!     I cant believe it  !
>Must be an old non-official demo. Last thing SH-MP want to do is to
>frustate our expectations. If they force the magazines to state
>performances that are pretty good, then, I dont believe they could
>authorize the showing of old and slow demos. It is ridiculous at this
>time of the championship to show such slow demos.  
>On the other hand, may be Geoff C. is having difficult on making GP2
>run well on current machines. Yes, ok ... but to run very slow on a
>P120 in VGA ... thats too much.
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>Carlos Miguel Santos Cordeiro

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I drove this very same beta version for about 6 hours at the Melbourne
International Motor Show earlier this month and found the speed in VGA
to be very good (P120, 16MB ram). If you ran in a race the frame rate
tended to become a little bit low, but when driving solo or with a few
other cars on the track it was just fine. However, even as it was it
just blows ICR2 away. The boys at Papyrus are going to have to work
overtime to top Geoffs' new creation.

Chris

Ken Nicols

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Ken Nicols » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00


:I hope this is an old demo.  I cant imagine that most game magazines
:have been lying about the performance of GP2 (especially PC Gamer and
:Edge magazine).
:
I'm afraid they are making it up. I've got two reliable sources that
have both said even the very latest beta is slow - at the NASCAR end
of the performance scale.

There was mention in the Edge of how wonderful the rain was. My
sources tell me rain isn't implemented yet.

Ken

Mike Donnel

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Mike Donnel » Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:00:00


says...

I'd disagree.  If it requires a fast pentium, then Papyrus has them beat
still.  When I can run it in vga with my 486 (even with relatively low frame
rates) then it can compete.  Before someone tells me I should upgrade, I
know this, but can't afford to.

Mike

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C Sh

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by C Sh » Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:00:00


:-)

:-)
:-) >> ....
:-)
:-) >>The game was running on a P120 and had about 16mb of RAM. It was
:-) >>very-very slow (but not jerky) around most of the Adelaide circuit, even
:-) >>though it was in VGA mode. There was no real sense of speed. You will
:-) >>probably need a p166 to run it at full detail in VGA mode. It looks like
:-) >>you'll need a p6 to run it in SVGA. Its Australian release date will be
:-) >>sometime in late April/early May. The Oz distributer is SEGA and they are
:-) >>the ones who provided the beta for the display at the computer show.
:-)
:-) >>Adrian
:-)
:-) >I hope this is an old demo.  I cant imagine that most game magazines
:-) >have been lying about the performance of GP2 (especially PC Gamer and
:-) >Edge magazine).
:-)
:-) >A P120 with 16mb is very-very slow in VGA mode ??????  With an 100%
:-) >assembly graphics engine !!!!     I cant believe it  !
:-)
:-) >Must be an old non-official demo. Last thing SH-MP want to do is to
:-) >frustate our expectations. If they force the magazines to state
:-) >performances that are pretty good, then, I dont believe they could
:-) >authorize the showing of old and slow demos. It is ridiculous at this
:-) >time of the championship to show such slow demos.  
:-)
:-) >On the other hand, may be Geoff C. is having difficult on making GP2
:-) >run well on current machines. Yes, ok ... but to run very slow on a
:-) >P120 in VGA ... thats too much.
:-) >-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
:-) >Carlos Miguel Santos Cordeiro
:-)

:-) >-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
:-)
:-) I drove this very same beta version for about 6 hours at the Melbourne
:-) International Motor Show earlier this month and found the speed in VGA
:-) to be very good (P120, 16MB ram). If you ran in a race the frame rate
:-) tended to become a little bit low, but when driving solo or with a few
:-) other cars on the track it was just fine. However, even as it was it
:-) just blows ICR2 away. The boys at Papyrus are going to have to work
:-) overtime to top Geoffs' new creation.
:-)
:-)
:-) Chris

:-)

How can you drive it for about 6 hours in an international motor show? I am
very interested ot know how did you manage to do that.

Chris

Mark Newma

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Mark Newma » Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Yes there are far too many *** magazines, but most of them are (in
the UK) published by the same company, which wouldn't necessarily be a
bad thing if they didn't all cost 5 pounds and run the same features,
with very similar cover disks (which are pretty tacky anyway).

Edge always seemed reliable until now, probably because it's not tied to
any particular format and can therefore be selective in the few games it
features.

One redeeming thought though: could Geoff Crammond really make a bad
game if he tried? I have to say, I think GP2 will be fabulous, and all
this talk of hardware specs is being somewhat pessimistic and premature.

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Barry Leek-Bran

GP2 beta at Computer Show in Oz

by Barry Leek-Bran » Sat, 30 Mar 1996 04:00:00



>:I hope this is an old demo.  I cant imagine that most game magazines
>:have been lying about the performance of GP2 (especially PC Gamer and
>:Edge magazine).
>:
>I'm afraid they are making it up. I've got two reliable sources that
>have both said even the very latest beta is slow - at the NASCAR end
>of the performance scale.
>There was mention in the Edge of how wonderful the rain was. My
>sources tell me rain isn't implemented yet.
>Ken

Magazines nowadays are pretty much renowned for their mistating the facts. I
read a review of the PC version of Destruction derby and how wonderful it was in
VGA but became quite slow in SVGA. Guess what, there's no such SVGA option.

There's too many magazines nowadays, the quality of which is extremely lacking.
Chocker block full of adds (paying adds by providers of demo games). In my
cynical view, its money that writes those articles not journalistic appraisal.

Long gone are the good old days of reliable reviews such as in Zzapp 64!

Bazza


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