rec.autos.simulators

by **Larr** » Mon, 15 May 2006 07:59:11

I think there's enough neat stuff coming to spice it up again, but it will
be a while.

-Larry

by **Scott B. Huste** » Mon, 15 May 2006 10:30:30

>>Look at the date messages took a plunge and then look at the messages from
>>that date. You will see someone named Mitch stirring up trouble and
>>causing many people to leave.

> Stirring up trouble doesn't seem to have affected much of the r.a.s.
> history. Trust *me*, I know that for a fact!

"ymenard, the mentally retarded poster of RAS" Hmmm.... =)

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by **ymenar** » Mon, 15 May 2006 14:01:33

>I think there's enough neat stuff coming to spice it up again, but it will
>be a while.

Yes yes we saw the incredible numbers of PC racing sim developpers showing
off their upcoming release at E3.

Oh wait there was none.

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by **ymenar** » Mon, 15 May 2006 14:02:22

> Where do you get the idea PC racing simulations was ever a mainstream
> market?

Sales of Papy sims (they were in the top 10 yearly sellers at one time).
Sales of Geoff Crammond sims (also in the top 10 yearly sellers at one
time).

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
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by **ymenar** » Mon, 15 May 2006 14:03:01

>> Stirring up trouble doesn't seem to have affected much of the r.a.s.
>> history. Trust *me*, I know that for a fact!

> "ymenard, the mentally retarded poster of RAS" Hmmm.... =)

Amish bankers should be excluded from the Internet !

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Byron Forbe** » Mon, 15 May 2006 14:49:24

>> That's sad. I remember all the flame wars you used to get into back in
>> the IndyCar II days. LOL

> There was a well balanced mess of serious and non-serious posts, which all
> helped the community of racing simulations fans.

>> What kind of stuff has been said here lately that you can't say on RSC?

> RSC is filled up with moderators, strict guidelines, "things you cannot
> mention", sticky threads that are useless, internal wars that are hidden
> to the public, cowardly attitude in front of developpers, etc...

Yes, like any police force, it ends up amounting to a bunch of silly
***es interested only in cutting everyones balls off and making it
impossible to set and maintain any standards. No room for any characters at
all and a place with no character other than that of a bunch of pooftas or
softcocks at best.

As far as things being quiet around here goes, I'd agree with the fact
that ISPs are tending to not supply access to usenet as standard - if at
all! A failing of government if you ask me - all governments should make
usenet access free to their citizens.

I'd also say that Papy's/Kaemer's absense is related. rFactor is
probably a little to chaotic for most peoples liking - hunting down tracks
and cars.

Papy = install and go
rFactor = install and join the endless search/wait for this and that

Not much else worthy of mention other than that all else contribute
further to the thinning/spreading out of simmers and simming in general and
amounting to more chaos.

We need a governing body and centralisation that deliver "WORLD" series!

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Mon, 15 May 2006 15:13:00

> Sales of Papy sims (they were in the top 10 yearly sellers at one
> time). Sales of Geoff Crammond sims (also in the top 10 yearly
> sellers at one time).

All part of the "democratisation" of PC-use... or perhaps technology
use. Until the late 90's PCs were still mainly for enthusiasts, and such
a serious hobby meant "serious" sims were very popular because they
appeal to the same kind of mindset.

Now PCs are like toasters, everyone has one. So the interests of PC
gamers are more mainstream and less serious. But now consoles are
increasingly claiming such people, so PC *** will naturally shrink
back towards its serious core of (nerdy :-) users.

Andrew McP

by **Steve Simpso** » Mon, 15 May 2006 17:36:38

That was back when PC *** wasn't mainstream.

by **Steve Simpso** » Mon, 15 May 2006 17:37:22

Actually the GTR 2 trailer was shown at E3. Both PC and Xbox 360 version.

by **Tony Rickar** » Mon, 15 May 2006 19:09:48

> We need a governing body and centralisation that deliver "WORLD" series!

I think you are right although previous attempts (FILSCA) haven't
exactly met with universal approval.

Of course we will have iRacing who stated in their original aims:

"...FIRST-Racing.net will deliver the next step. And, that next step
will incorporate new technology to heighten the realism as well as a
sanctioning body to launch a truly global online sport."

Please ignore the fact they started a sentence with a conjunction as
this post could go so OT as to muck up ymenard's stats for the
predicting the end of the world :)

Cheers
Tony

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