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Did I say that!?

robswindell

Did I say that!?

by robswindell » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I thought you might find this interesting... here's a message I posted
to RAS, dated 12/30/1998 :o) Don't flame me please! It was a long time
ago!

I wasn't going to buy this game ...ever. The thought of driving sloppy
old bangers in a sim just didn't get my juices going at all. But after
christmas, I found myself with a bit of spare cash and when I was
browsing PC World I saw GPL, thought it over, thought of the
Nurburgring's twisty 14 mile layout and was sold... but only just. I had
actually gone in there looking for Paint Shop Pro... they didn't have it
:(

Anyway, after a good few hours of playing, mostly at the Nurburgring, a
few laps of Monaco and not even one complete tour of Silverstone I have
to say.... "Shit! This is good!" I have no passion for the cars, the
drivers or the tracks... except for the Nurburgring. The drivers were
rich basterds, probably a bit like the guys I went to school with, the
cars, I mean their looks & names ignight no inspiration for me and the
tracks are a bit bland (so far).

Having said that, I do enjoy _driving_ the cars, they are extreamly
tricky, and I have only auto-shifting to support my attempts to keep the
machine under control... and the Nurburgring is just fantastic, it's
crazy! You only need to get one corner right and it's enough to make you
want to practice more and more for a few hours, until the next slide,
correction, opposite lock, locking wheel... something else, that just
looks so great, feels soo great that you want to stick with it for a
good few more hours! :o) Yes, I'm well and truly ***ed :'-(

Rob
<<<

How views and opinioins change :o) Now read some of the reply's (flames)
I received to this post! hehe...

Rob, once again you're letting your ignorance show.  It's good to see
you enjoy GPL, *now that you've actually tried it*, but to go on
slagging people and things you know nothing about...

  Take Denis Hulme, the '67 champion.  His father had a trucking firm in
New Zealand.  At six***, Denny's first driving experience was driving
one of his father's six ton trucks on 150 mile trips
delivering five cubic yards of sand in the evenings after school or
weekends.  In the Hulme trucking business, the driver was also the
mechanic, so when a gearbox blew out, Denny learned how to fix that to
get home.

  Denny started racing in 1957 (at 19), and labored in relative
obscurity in NZ sports car and formula racing for a few years.  In 1960
he won the NZ GP Association's Driver to Europe award and went to Europe
to drive (with George Lawton, who was killed racing a few months later).

  He worked his way through the ranks, working as a mechanic at Jack
Brabham motors in 1962 to pay the rent.  In '63 he drove Formula Junior
for Brabham and almost won the British Championship.  His first F1
drives (part-time) were in 1965, and he stepped into a full-time
position in 1966.  In 1967, he scored his first win at Monaco (he also
won at the Nurburgring), won the World Championship, and finished fourth
at the Indy 500 (winning Rookie of the Year honors).

(BTW, this is heavily summarized from the Nov '67 issue of "Sports Car
Graphic" magazine, I can send you an OCR if you're interested.)

  So as you *may* be able to see, these "rich bastards" that you have no
interest in or passion for do have some accomplishments (both in racing
and life) that merit at least your respect, if not admiration.

  On the other hand, if you ever make anything of yourself in racing,
perhaps we can look forward to the day in the distant future (while we
old farts are racing our wheelchairs) when some young snot comes along
and tells you what a boring rich bastard you are...  :)

You know nothing about that time period of racing do you?
You could have at least read the strat. guide.
Don't bash the people or the circuits until you know a little bit about
them...I'm curious though, what name would ignight inspiration though?
Only ones I can think of outside of this era:  Fangio, Villeneuve,
Sheckter, Lauda, Mansell, Prost, Senna, Schumacher.
While in 67 there's: Brabham, Clark, Hill, Hulme, Ickx(up and coming),
Surtees, Stewart

Auto-shifting decreases your control, you can't control revs which means
you can't control the rear end...which is not good for a beginner.  Auto
simply sucks, for novice or expert.

1 more box...1 more satisfied customer (what's that 99.9% now?). :-)

 >>>

"sloppy old bangers" - you really are asking for a roasting aren't you?
- bit young for that era are you? or just felt like a bit of a christmas
flame?

welcome to real driving - none of your "stuck to the ground, corner like
slot cars" here :-)

<<<

--
Rob Swindells
"Add life to your days, not days to your life."
"The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
"Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
"I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."

Rafe McAulif

Did I say that!?

by Rafe McAulif » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Geez, can't believe you said the tracks were bland! Compared with
something like the modern Silverstone or Hungaroring...

On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:48:02 +0000, robswindells


>I thought you might find this interesting... here's a message I posted
>to RAS, dated 12/30/1998 :o) Don't flame me please! It was a long time
>ago!

>I wasn't going to buy this game ...ever. The thought of driving sloppy
>old bangers in a sim just didn't get my juices going at all. But after
>christmas, I found myself with a bit of spare cash and when I was
>browsing PC World I saw GPL, thought it over, thought of the
>Nurburgring's twisty 14 mile layout and was sold... but only just. I had
>actually gone in there looking for Paint Shop Pro... they didn't have it
>:(

>Anyway, after a good few hours of playing, mostly at the Nurburgring, a
>few laps of Monaco and not even one complete tour of Silverstone I have
>to say.... "Shit! This is good!" I have no passion for the cars, the
>drivers or the tracks... except for the Nurburgring. The drivers were
>rich basterds, probably a bit like the guys I went to school with, the
>cars, I mean their looks & names ignight no inspiration for me and the
>tracks are a bit bland (so far).

>Having said that, I do enjoy _driving_ the cars, they are extreamly
>tricky, and I have only auto-shifting to support my attempts to keep the
>machine under control... and the Nurburgring is just fantastic, it's
>crazy! You only need to get one corner right and it's enough to make you
>want to practice more and more for a few hours, until the next slide,
>correction, opposite lock, locking wheel... something else, that just
>looks so great, feels soo great that you want to stick with it for a
>good few more hours! :o) Yes, I'm well and truly ***ed :'-(

>Rob
><<<

>How views and opinioins change :o) Now read some of the reply's (flames)
>I received to this post! hehe...

>Rob, once again you're letting your ignorance show.  It's good to see
>you enjoy GPL, *now that you've actually tried it*, but to go on
>slagging people and things you know nothing about...

>  Take Denis Hulme, the '67 champion.  His father had a trucking firm in
>New Zealand.  At six***, Denny's first driving experience was driving
>one of his father's six ton trucks on 150 mile trips
>delivering five cubic yards of sand in the evenings after school or
>weekends.  In the Hulme trucking business, the driver was also the
>mechanic, so when a gearbox blew out, Denny learned how to fix that to
>get home.

>  Denny started racing in 1957 (at 19), and labored in relative
>obscurity in NZ sports car and formula racing for a few years.  In 1960
>he won the NZ GP Association's Driver to Europe award and went to Europe
>to drive (with George Lawton, who was killed racing a few months later).

>  He worked his way through the ranks, working as a mechanic at Jack
>Brabham motors in 1962 to pay the rent.  In '63 he drove Formula Junior
>for Brabham and almost won the British Championship.  His first F1
>drives (part-time) were in 1965, and he stepped into a full-time
>position in 1966.  In 1967, he scored his first win at Monaco (he also
>won at the Nurburgring), won the World Championship, and finished fourth
>at the Indy 500 (winning Rookie of the Year honors).

>(BTW, this is heavily summarized from the Nov '67 issue of "Sports Car
>Graphic" magazine, I can send you an OCR if you're interested.)

>  So as you *may* be able to see, these "rich bastards" that you have no
>interest in or passion for do have some accomplishments (both in racing
>and life) that merit at least your respect, if not admiration.

>  On the other hand, if you ever make anything of yourself in racing,
>perhaps we can look forward to the day in the distant future (while we
>old farts are racing our wheelchairs) when some young snot comes along
>and tells you what a boring rich bastard you are...  :)

>You know nothing about that time period of racing do you?
>You could have at least read the strat. guide.
>Don't bash the people or the circuits until you know a little bit about
>them...I'm curious though, what name would ignight inspiration though?
>Only ones I can think of outside of this era:  Fangio, Villeneuve,
>Sheckter, Lauda, Mansell, Prost, Senna, Schumacher.
>While in 67 there's: Brabham, Clark, Hill, Hulme, Ickx(up and coming),
>Surtees, Stewart

>Auto-shifting decreases your control, you can't control revs which means
>you can't control the rear end...which is not good for a beginner.  Auto
>simply sucks, for novice or expert.

>1 more box...1 more satisfied customer (what's that 99.9% now?). :-)

>"sloppy old bangers" - you really are asking for a roasting aren't you?
>- bit young for that era are you? or just felt like a bit of a christmas
>flame?

>welcome to real driving - none of your "stuck to the ground, corner like
>slot cars" here :-)

><<<


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