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Anywhere else to get good movies now?

All the movies we used to have are in a moving phase.... expect them
to be all comfy on their new server sometime soon, I'll post once they are
up again after all that music copyright trouble.

Mikkel Gram-Hansen
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You know, the real evil in this is the "Must Protect" clause in all the
laws.  If a company does not actively enforce it's patents, they lose them.

If that one law was amended, the companies could choose whether to look the
other way or not, but retain full rights and privilages to act any time they
want, we wouldn't live in such a "mine Mine MINE!" society.

-Larry

This thread seems to be about copyrights, not patents.

On Sat, 09 Mar 2002 20:52:42 GMT, "Matthew V. Jessick"

And for the edification of the previous poster I'd like to explicitly
point out that copyrights do NOT have to be defended in the manner of
trademarks, * and neither do patents.*

KFG

And as a matter of fact, I could re-record any song I like, and put it on my
album without getting prior consent from the original artist.  I just have to
pay royalties based on sales...

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Mostly, you are correct, but I think it depends on who owns the song
you want to record.  Just about everything you've ever heard is part
of some kind of syndicate like ASCAP that has all the royalty
arrangements already worked out.  When most artists record musical
works, the publishing company becomes owner of the creative content,
and they are the ones who actually belong to these syndicates.  But if
I wrote a song, recorded it, never published it through traditional
distribution channels, but yet you somehow heard it and you wanted to
record a version of it, you better believe you would need my
permission first.  Of course your A&R guy would make ME sell MY soul
before you would ever be allowed to actually do the recording... and
so 20 years later, my musical masterpiece becomes part of a soap
commercial jingle.

Also, you usually have to pay royalties for any live performances of
songs governed by these types of arrangements, even if you never
record them.

Gerald

You can *record* whatever you WANT - how can they stop you, really?
I heard it in a music newsgroup.  Say I wanted to remake a song by Ramsey
Lewis.  I would record the song, and request the royalty 'contract' from the
record company.   In that paperwork, it would state how much of a royalty has
to be paid per unit sold.  Then the record company would be paid that stated
amount per album I sold.  I thought it was a lot more complicated, but from the
explanation it isn't.  Since I haven't done my CD yet it's a moot point for me,
but I'll be exploring this in the next year or so. :-)

Eldred
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IIRC that depends on who owns the publishing rights.  Yes, if you're
dealing with someone who publishes their songs through a major
publishing house, normally you just have to pay a royalty fee for any
copies of the song that are sold and credit the person who wrote the
song.  A few years ago it was something like 7 cents per copy.

I'm not positive, but I believe if you publish songs yourself you can
deny their use.  I would have to double check the law since I don't
really care much for creative property laws (i.e. I don't
copyright/publish my own music because I don't believe in that).

Jason

Well true.  I was talking about if you want to sell it or perform it
for profit (And probably also give it away if the RIAA had its way.)
What kind of music are you into, Eldred?  I used to play guitar in a
thrash metal band.

You can absolutely deny the use (broadcast, redistribution, etc.) of
any copyrighted work that you own.  The extent to which you wish to
try to enforce your rights is up to you.

What's your beef with copyrighting something you create?

Gerald

I've been in a jazz band and a top 40 bar band before.  My favorite group is
Rush, but my interests range from heavy metal to rap to classical to jazz...<g>

Eldred
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