rec.autos.simulators

What happens if you hit a biker with a car? Do they crash and fall off
the bike or just kind of lamely both get pushed aside?

Same goes for me on a bike in the game. While riding the motorcycle,
what if I hit a car at high speed? Low speed? Will I fall off the bike
in both cases? Neither?

Do I have to land jumps properly so as not to crash?

Can ped 'clothes line' me when I'm on the cycle?

Side note, are there bicycles to steal in the game?

I guess I'm wondering how 'sim-ish' and how much 'arcadish' the
motorcycle aspect of this game is.

Anyone have a clue to these questions?

thanks

If they model it like they've done with cars in GTA3, it'll be exaggerated
but believable in the same sense that a movie like Die Hard is exaggerated
but believeable.

But I do doubt they'll have the peds clotheslining you off of a bike.  That
would be a very cool surprise, though.

Milhouse

Ooooooh shit-yeah! There's two that I know of. One is a 4-stroke sounding
harley-style bike used by a biker gang, and the other looks like ya typical
high performance Jap or Duc of maybe 900cc or so - more a sports bike
instead of a big tourer. The movies from the official Vice City website
clearly shows cycle theft, riding and even some stunts. From the movies and
R* interviews, it looks entirely possible that the cycles will support monos
and nose stands, and even flipping if you launch or stop too hard.

There's also a moped if you class that as a bike :->

Look around http://www.vicecity.com which is a Flash site. On the wall is a
red box with the keys of impounded vehicles. When you click on the keys you
get given a folder (it kinda plays like a game in the flash) and you'll see
photos and also movies of many of the vehicles. You'd probably learn a lot
from watching them. It's my guess that the movies are all collected using
"Cinematic Mode" for the in-game cameras, plus careful editing of course.

GTA3 was reasonably realistic in terms of the driving physics - ie you could
detect noticable driving differences between different vehicles which
corresponded to the expected behaviour of similar real cars. In fact, there
was definite characteristics of front-wheel, rear wheel and even mid-engined
cars for their handling.

However the crash response was arcadish. Cars can be destroyed in stages but
I tell ya, you wouldn't expect this level of survival to happen in real
life. As an aside, I really like the driving sim of GT3 but IMHO the
complete lack of vehicle damage apart from abstract tyre damage is a major
weakness in that otherwise fantastic driving sim.

I have read a R* interview where they say the damage from cycle crashes will
be quite harsh and dependent on the speed. I'd expect the cycles to be
relatively realistic for handling etc but also expect reasonable arcade-ness
because after all this is a fantasy game and the goal is not ultimately to
drive vehicles with 100% realism.

Interesting question - it'll be one of the first things I'll be trying :-)
I'm also looking fwd to using the Samuri sword from a cycle.

The guy dies and you get arrested for vehicular *** and are thrown in
jail, to be released in ten years, when you will be able to play GTA 19 or a
PS12.

You do fall off; and if you're near San Fransico Bay you'll fly into a lot
of water.  If you're near McCovey's cove, you will be allowed to search for
one of Barry Bonds' home-run balls.  If you're near Lake Erie, you'll get
contaminated; and if near the Cuyahoga River, you'll catch fire.   Sometimes
you might fly into a neighbor's pool (I think this is if you're in Miami).
But the pool has been drained and instead of making a splash landing, you
crack your head and blead to death.

Ped?  That's a brand of dog food, or couldn't you spell the word?  The only
"clothes line" you'll see is in New Orleans, where a woman is***
laundry and completely ***.  If you land near her, she'll ask if you want
your pecker dried.

Damn if I know.

 > I guess I'm wondering how 'sim-ish' and how much 'arcadish' the

Simish?  A language?  An offshoot of Japanese?

 > Anyone have a clue to these questions?

I tried and answered the best way I know.  I hope it helped.

Alanb

I've heard that you can jump kick people off the motorcycle. I can only
assume they can do it to you too.

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"Never underestimate the power of stupid people
in large groups." -Despair.com

later,
travis

Or the bit about riding a MOTORCYCLE ?

Or the side note about bicycles

Or the part about how sim'ish the MOTORCYCLE aspect is ...

And why do you change the headers all the time ?

Is she gonna mangle it or blow-dry it?

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With regard to the motorbikes, I read an article yesterday in a mag which
says when you come off the bike you get thrown off and suffer bad damage.
They have tried to make it realistic, but obviously if someone hits a lorry
at 90mph in reality they are likely to suffer worse than bad injury.
There are bikes to steal in the game and there are 4 different types,
including a moped.  You can do wheelies.

Beck

Milhouse