rec.autos.simulators

A good portion of San Francisco Rush machines have clutch pedals.  The feel
isn't bad for the pedal, but the game modeling is just in or out, no slip /
stalling / etc.  You don't even really need it in the game.

Milhouse

Jonny

dw

bethsoft make a drag racing game

 Oh yes, any time I see these games around I sit down and play.  There's still
nothing like them.  I was always number one on any machine I played (now it's
F355 for me, #1 on everything but Motegi 'cause I don't do ovals ;-)).   I did
manage to play on one coin for close to two hours on the super stunt track in
Race Drivin', and usually could go for a good half hour or more on the
autocross :-D

 I put a LOT of money into those games!  lol

Todd Wasson
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Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

"Don Wilshe" said:

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Too bad your arcade didn't have the original sit-down cabinet version, with
bucket seat.  It also had a direct drive motor for the steering (compact
version you tried has a belt drive) along with all three full sized pedals
and a full sized shifter (modeled after an actual Hurst shifter).

...one more slightly late suggestion: do your first few practice sessions in a gravel
parking lot. If you don't get the coordination of clutch & gas right, all you'll do
is spin the tires a bit, not lurch the car. Make your objective to get away cleanly &
smoothly without kicking up any gravel, and you've got it!

I taught myself and several friends this way - works like a charm...

      ...Klinn

OK, but the guy was saying real cars are all manual. If I wanted manual I
would buy one. In N.A. all cars come in manual or auto, you have to pay
extra for auto and that is what most people opt for.

On a side note; there is a show on TV from the UK about bad drivers there,
seems to me many of those people just can not coordinate manual shifting
with all the other things they have to think about while driving and that is
why they are having a problem. If they used auto they could probably drive
fine. Manual shifting adds two more tasks to driving (clutch and shifting)
that a person must think about, thought that could be better used thinking
about safe driving techniques rather than pretending they are a race car
driver on busy public roads.

/petern
/driving an AT right now

Well said! I hate when I'm in a car and people do that! It drives me crazy!
It's funny how people talk about replacing their clutch like it's something
you have to do every once in awhile and it's just a common repair. If you
learn to drive the thing right, you should only have to replace the clutch
maybe every 200,000 miles. Personally, I have never had one go out...ever.

It's like patting your head while trying to rub your tummy. Some people just
can't do it.

Nearly every person that drives a 5 speed (ie their own car) don't
even think about.  It's very natural.

The problem for most people (especially girls - and no I am not sexist, it
is a fact) is that they don't understand or get taught anything about how a
car even fundamentally works. If you understand how a drivetrain works, then
you will also straight away be halfway to being able to drive a manual. I
love changing gears manually, I think it is a part in the enjoyment of
motoring, and I would never go anywhere near an automatic. Driving 'swiftly'
down a hedgelined B-road in the UK shifting through gears 2,3 and 4 almost
once every second, is incredibly fun, and makes my (admittedly rorty) engine
sound fantastic on downshifts.

If you can manual shift without even realising it, as a reflex action
triggered by the engine revs sounding too high or low, you are safer in a
manual than an automatic. You are also doing less damage to the internals of
the car (no machine can replicate the infinite levels of feel of a human
appendage). It's kinda like ABS. Most drivers are a lot safer with ABS, but
some can stop a car sooner without it. One helpful side effect of changing
from an auto 'box to a manual is that your ears already know roughly when to
change up or down, and so once you know the mechanics of manual shifting,
there shouldn't be a problem.

Try checking out some sites on the internet about clutch mechanisms and the
internal workings of a gearbox. That would help so many learners, but
instead they get taught how to pull away on a hill (yes, holding the car on
the clutch as they do so :-)

--
Nick

"The overriding purpose of software is
to be useful, rather than correct."
John Carmack, id Software