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New Wheel !!

don hodgdo

New Wheel !!

by don hodgdo » Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Oh sure, any time you change a piece of equipment like that, there's bound
to be a period of adjustment. I thought I had made a huge mistake when I
switched to my present wheel last year but, after a couple of days I had
equalled or bettered my times. Just give it some time.


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don

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BP astro

New Wheel !!

by BP astro » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

   Hello to all you GPL fan's ,it's nice to know there's folk's out there who
love and are just as ***ed to the sim as I am.I recieved my TSWstock a few
week's ago and lost anywhere from 2 to 4 seconds on my lap times, there
starting to get better again but was wondering if anybody else had this problem
when changing wheels.I was very frustrated as my  lap times were starting to
improve( monza 1:28s best 1:27.87,the glenn 1:05s best 1:04.72 etc.)now I
struggle to run in the 1:29s at monza and in the 1:06s at the glenn.I had a TM
nascar pro, I use the  SB Live game port,everything is calibrated well,steering

was thinking that it could be the differance in feel,anyway I'm happy with the
TSW and will keep practicing to I break 1:26.0 monza,1:03.0 glenn etc.
  Happy racing all
 Buster
David L. Co

New Wheel !!

by David L. Co » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Geez, I wish I had your problems ;)



> now I struggle to run in the 1:29s at monza and in the 1:06s at the glenn.

John Bod

New Wheel !!

by John Bod » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I had the same problem when I first switched to my TSW2 -- it is
smoother, with less of a center notch, and the lighter springs don't
snap it back to center as forcefully.  That meant that rather than
simply letting the wheel roll back to center, I found that I had to be
a bit more active coming out of turns and such.  The payoff for me,
though, was that without the more pronounced centering notch, I was
ultimately able to make small corrections much easier, which meant
less thrashing and more precise control -- which led to faster lap
times in the end.

FWIW, I find that every time I switch from one wheel to another,
regardless of the manufacturer, my lap times suffer until I adapt to
the new setup.  When changing from one controller to another, I find
that the pedals respond differently than I'm used to, the braking
requires a different touch, and the spring tension and centering
responses of the wheel are all different -- which means I have to
adapt.  This is even true when switching between my TSW2 and my TSW to
some extent, and they're close enough that the differences are almost
negligible.  

Stick with it -- you'll be faster than ever before you know it!

-- JB


>   Hello to all you GPL fan's ,it's nice to know there's folk's out there who
>love and are just as ***ed to the sim as I am.I recieved my TSWstock a few
>week's ago and lost anywhere from 2 to 4 seconds on my lap times, there
>starting to get better again but was wondering if anybody else had this problem
>when changing wheels.I was very frustrated as my  lap times were starting to
>improve( monza 1:28s best 1:27.87,the glenn 1:05s best 1:04.72 etc.)now I
>struggle to run in the 1:29s at monza and in the 1:06s at the glenn.I had a TM
>nascar pro, I use the  SB Live game port,everything is calibrated well,steering

>was thinking that it could be the differance in feel,anyway I'm happy with the
>TSW and will keep practicing to I break 1:26.0 monza,1:03.0 glenn etc.
>  Happy racing all
> Buster

Neil Rain

New Wheel !!

by Neil Rain » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>    Hello to all you GPL fan's ,it's nice to know there's folk's out there who
> love and are just as ***ed to the sim as I am.I recieved my TSWstock a few
> week's ago and lost anywhere from 2 to 4 seconds on my lap times, there
> starting to get better again but was wondering if anybody else had this problem
> when changing wheels.I was very frustrated as my  lap times were starting to
> improve( monza 1:28s best 1:27.87,the glenn 1:05s best 1:04.72 etc.)now I
> struggle to run in the 1:29s at monza and in the 1:06s at the glenn.I had a TM
> nascar pro, I use the  SB Live game port,everything is calibrated well,steering

> was thinking that it could be the differance in feel,anyway I'm happy with the
> TSW and will keep practicing to I break 1:26.0 monza,1:03.0 glenn etc.

Sounds like you're going pretty quickly anyway!

One thing to consider: when you get a smoother wheel it may be possible
to move the linearity slider further to the left, as this would have
been a problem with a more 'notchy' wheel.

If you can control the twitchiness in the centre, you then get more
smoothness as you turn the wheel - if you try it with the on-screen
wheel displayed you can see how the 'virtual' wheel responds as you move
the real one.

Of course, altering this setting might make you even slower until you
get used to it!

BP astro

New Wheel !!

by BP astro » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

  Thank's for all the input! I was strating to think I was loosing my touch.But
I think I have another problem now, all this talk about the FF in the new patch
might have me running to the store's for a new FF wheel! Maybe I'll try to
combine the FF mechanism to TSW! really! anybody ever try to do this? I'm a
tool and die maker by trade and might really try it. Boy am I ***ed to this
sim. Well thank's again everyone! happy racing.
  Buster
Thomas Enterprise

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by Thomas Enterprise » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00


Buster,

I'm sure it could be done but you'd defeat both strong points of our
equipment by doing so, TSWs and TSW2s are designed to be very precise and to
be unbreakble and replacing the main strength and precision components would
turn it into just another controller :(.

We could do an FF wheel to our standards of quality, the only prob is nobody
could afford what we;d have to charge to make any money on them.

Trev

David L. Co

New Wheel !!

by David L. Co » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I don't know, Trev.  People are out there buying the ECCI aren't they?  
IMO and TSW FF wheel combined with Papy's implementation of force
feedback would be the ultimate in sim racing immersion.  I'd pay the
price.

"Build it and they will come".

David Cook
TSW2 Owner


> We could do an FF wheel to our standards of quality, the only prob is nobody
> could afford what we;d have to charge to make any money on them.

> Trev

JVizoso.freeserve.co.u

New Wheel !!

by JVizoso.freeserve.co.u » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00

So you'll be going out of business soon then ?
               muahahahaha
                                                     ta jv.



> >Maybe I'll try to
> >combine the FF mechanism to TSW! really! anybody ever try to do this?

> Buster,

> I'm sure it could be done but you'd defeat both strong points of our
> equipment by doing so, TSWs and TSW2s are designed to be very precise and
to
> be unbreakble and replacing the main strength and precision components
would
> turn it into just another controller :(.

> We could do an FF wheel to our standards of quality, the only prob is
nobody
> could afford what we;d have to charge to make any money on them.

> Trev


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