rec.autos.simulators

Has anyone any idea what the comparitive figures for speeds running our
faves such as N2 and GP2 are for the Pentium Pro 200 compared to the P166
or P200.  I'm thinking of upgrading to one of the two from my ageing P90
and as these games are my most played (plus flight sims) - is the Pro worth
getting over a P166 or 200?

I will also get the obligatory 3D card too - any pointers yet on future
support - the Verite chip is used by Papy, but any idea whether Geoff will
support it in any future games or upgrade to GP2?

James Long

Is your gp2 framerate estimate with all mirror textures on?

I would like to know as I am planning to purchase a config just like
yours.  Thanks in advance!

I would say get a P166, because from what I have read and been told a
P200Pro doesn't run games as well as a regular P166 or P200, the pro is
optimized for 32bit apps, and gp2 is a 16bit app, you can get a fast video
card with a p166 like I have and the game runs very smoothly. I run with
everything on except sky, and get 19.6 frames a sec, with an est of 21.6
on my P166 with 32 meg ram and 4mb Matrox Mill. The P200 is only about
9-12% faster then a P166 according to pc computing. But its about 100-200
more then a P166.

My PPro 200 blows away my P200 for anything I run, NT, Win95, Nascar2,
etc. Both have 3d cards and similar disk.

Regards,
        ---Wayne.

Well my friend has a P200 pro and it runs every game he has every gotten
for it like crap, my P166 runs gp2 and nascar way better, and he has
32megs ram 4 mb video card monster 3d 8 speed cd-rom and it still blows
chunks! When we called intel to find out way it sucked so much they told
us we were better off running games on regular P166's and P200's not a
pro.

On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:51:27 -0500, "Aw C'mon!"

Jeff

You probably need the utility "Fastvid" to speed up the video performance.
Search for it on the Net.

Jo
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I have seen a P133 run like a 486DX 33. There is an obvious problem.
First thing is to make sure the bios is all setup. Best place to start
for a speed increase. We soon had it all humming along nicely..

Shane Lansky

Hobart,Tasmania
Australia

Pentium Pro's work best with "true 32-bit" operating systems. Windows 95
is a mixture of both 16bit/32bit, and DOS is 16bit. Unless you are running
Windows NT (or LINUX I guess), most of the time the Pentium Pro's will be
slower than a regular Pentium. If you are using Windows 95, Windows 3.1,
or DOS, then get a regular Pentium 200. If you are using Windows NT, then
get a Pentium Pro 200.
The Pentium Pro itself isn't crap, you just have to use it with the right
operating system.

Any game that runs under DOS6GW (most of them) don't use DOS for any
time-critical functions and are running in a 32-bit environment for
all practical purposes.  You simply need to run "fastvid" during
bootup to enable write-combining to your video card.  At that point,
the Pro will be significantly faster than the equivalent Pentium.
Check the Quake benchmark page for verification.  Fastvid also works
with WIN95.  It needs to be run in your autoexec.bat file before W95
is invoked.

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Scott Pritchett

Where can I find Fastvid??