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by **walkwa..** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Early last week, the anticipation seemed to be coming to a head on the
release of the GPL 1.1 patch. Here we are a week later and I haven't
seen or heard anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to
start another whining thread about how we were "promised" this patch.
I'm just curious to see if anyone can shed some light on where the
patch stands.

Anyone?

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by **Don Chapma** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

When it comes to release dates for games and patches, I've never understood
why more companies don't take id softwares philosophy of "it's done when
it's done". Giving dates, or hints like "any day now", or releasing the
readme.txt for the patch just seems to add fuel to the fire. Not making
estimated dates, or giving vague hints just seems to frustrate people. I
stopped checking r.a.s and the ususal GPL web sites after Memorial Day
hoping to come back in a few weeks and be pleasantly surprised. Well, it is
free..........

Don Chapman

>Early last week, the anticipation seemed to be coming to a head on the
>release of the GPL 1.1 patch. Here we are a week later and I haven't
>seen or heard anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to
>start another whining thread about how we were "promised" this patch.
>I'm just curious to see if anyone can shed some light on where the
>patch stands.

>Anyone?

>-/-Walk Walker
>Official HAL Backmarker

>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

by **ymenar** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

But isn't this the exact approach that Papyrus took here ?

Sorry but they never released any dates for the patch. They released the
readme.txt, and some information on where the patch was (translations,
testing, etc..). But that's all. The hype is created by the fans, not
Papyrus.

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by **Driver** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I for one am glad they have released the info they have released, I was a
low rider, so now I have a little time to work on real setups.

by **Jack Ramb** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

fire. Not making
estimated dates, or giving vague hints just seems to frustrate people.<

Boy, I'll say! Developers who do that kind of thing are idiots! Hehe.

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by **Don Chapma** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>Sorry but they never released any dates for the patch. They released the
>readme.txt, and some information on where the patch was (translations,
>testing, etc..). But that's all. The hype is created by the fans, not
>Papyrus.

Actually, Randy did say that the patch would be out November 1, 1998 :)

Don Chapman

by **Ken Bear** » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00

It's a good concept, but I think a lot of us remember a rushed Quake2 for
the Christmas season, with tons of patches needed to get multiplayer running
right... :-)

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>When it comes to release dates for games and patches, I've never understood
>why more companies don't take id softwares philosophy of "it's done when
>it's done". Giving dates, or hints like "any day now", or releasing the
>readme.txt for the patch just seems to add fuel to the fire. Not making
>estimated dates, or giving vague hints just seems to frustrate people. I
>stopped checking r.a.s and the ususal GPL web sites after Memorial Day
>hoping to come back in a few weeks and be pleasantly surprised. Well, it is
>free..........

>Don Chapman

>>Early last week, the anticipation seemed to be coming to a head on the
>>release of the GPL 1.1 patch. Here we are a week later and I haven't
>>seen or heard anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to
>>start another whining thread about how we were "promised" this patch.
>>I'm just curious to see if anyone can shed some light on where the
>>patch stands.

>>Anyone?

>>-/-Walk Walker
>>Official HAL Backmarker

>>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

by **Gaul** » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00

LOL!

by **Don Chapma** » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I guess my intentions were not clear in my previous post. I'm not trying to
compare Papyrus and id from a quality of product standpoint. Quake 2 was
extremely buggy when it was released, just as most programs are these
days(unfortunately). All I was saying is that id will not give estimated
release dates on their products(or necessary patches), thus no one gets all
riled up in the newsgroups about it.

Papyrus' products have been infinitely more playable out of the box than
most other companies, and I have purchased all their sims. They have been
pretty good in meeting their estimated release dates as well. Basically,
there has been a great new Papyrus product released every Fall - Indycar in
1993, Nascar - 1994, Indycar 2 - 1995, Nascar 2 - 1996, SODA/Busch Grand
National Pack - 1997, GPL/Nascar 1999 - 1998

You are also correct that Papyrus(Randy, Eric, etc.) have not given a
specific release date for the patch, nor has GPAL author Jack Rambo.
However, it definitely has been hinted at as if it was any day now for over
a month. And r.a.s itself is what takes little bits and pieces of their
posts and creates its own frenzy. Releasing the readme.txt and announcing it
in the newsgroup also generated more hype(even if it was released in advance
just to be helpful regarding ride heights, etc.).

What my original post did not convey was that I'm on the side of the
developers. I would be willing to pay for the patch just for force-feedback,
and I would definitely be willing to pay for GPAL based on the feature set.
And since they are actually free, I'm sure not going to complain about when
they are released. I'm just saying it would be easier on the developers to
not hint at a time frame or give a date range, as that seems to cause alot
of unnecessary frustration and negativity when the dates are missed.

Don Chapman

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