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Enjoy
Steve-S
#63 Warbirds Chevy Monte Carlo

PS.  I'm pretty sure the copyright has expired.  It's been out of
print for some time.  Anyone have a turntable??? :-)

Aahhh, the memories...thanks! As for the copyright, I'm in the clear as
I've got the LP in my closet but I haven't had a turntable for years...so
again thanks! However, the music hasn't gotten any better over time, but
it still evokes the film/mood...8^)...and is perfect for GPL.

J. P. Hovercraft

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Remco

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|Background music whille driving? That's sick... last time I checked race
|cars where not equiped with onboard stereo's....
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|> I read some posts about background music for GPL and thought y'all
|> might  like to listen to the soundtrack from Grand Prix while driving.
|> I do and I enjoy it alot.  It's posted in alt.binaries.simulators as a
|> single zip file.  It's rather large so if parts don't make it let me
|> know and I'll see if I can break it down to individual songs.
|>
|> Enjoy
|> Steve-S
|> #63 Warbirds Chevy Monte Carlo
|>
|> PS.  I'm pretty sure the copyright has expired.  It's been out of
|> print for some time.  Anyone have a turntable??? :-)
|>
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You must be young to consider '67 long enough ago for something to have gone
out of copyright. Out of print has nothing to do with it.

Do you think Disney wouldn't have a problem with you copying Snow White?
Give it a try, see what happens.

How about the Beatle's Sargent Pepper?

Do you believe that the movie itself is so old that you can be "pretty sure"
it's copyright has expired? Why not post the whole thing for us? I believe
Time-Warner would be the current owner. Give 'em a call, ask 'em if it's ok
to post it. To be fair, if you have the original soundtrack to record and
post, you know who to call first to ask if it's ok, rather than relying on
being "pretty sure."

Just so you know, under current law a copyright lasts the life of the author
plus 75 years.  This law wasn't the one in effect at the time Grand Prix was
made, as I recall the law at the time was that a copyright lasted 38 years,
renewable for another 38, for a total of 76. Grand Prix wouldn't even be
quite up to its renewal date yet.

Look, I really don't mean to be snide, and I'm not trying to rip you a new
*** or anything. I'm really just trying to get you to think for a
minute, and make you a bit more aware of what is involved.

You have posted an illegal binary. It dosn't seem you meant to because you
were "pretty sure" you hadn't. This won't save you from prosecution. Minimum
fine is $200, whether there has been fininacial lose shown or not.

If you want to be "pretty sure" you can be sure that anything published
since WWII is still under copyright. I've been recording songs first
recorded in 1929, and I'll have to pay royalties, they are still under
copyright. Unless you know *for sure* that it isn't under copyright, you can
be "pretty sure" that it is. If you want to know *for sure* just call the
publisher and ask.

Thanks for posting the music, great action. Unfortunately, you guessed
it, not all parts came through. Can you put in on a website perhaps?

Andre

All I really want is the sounds of the cars =)

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Mine is MGM S1E-8 ST  Stereo<g>.
--
don

"Getting hit by a meteorite is an accident...
  everything else is driver-error."

An interesting Grand Prix tidbit...A friend attended an awards dinner in Los
Angeles a year or two ago where James Garner, Phil Hill and Grand Prix
Director of Photography, Johnny Stephens showed outtakes from Grand Prix,
including details of Johnny's camera mounts and how special effects were
done in the days before digital voodoo. I'm trying to contact Mr. Stephens
through the Directors Guild to see if copies could be made available.
--
don

"Getting hit by a meteorite is an accident...
  everything else is driver-error."

  Steve-S

If it was only available <g>.  Good luck finding it, it's only available on
Vinyl, and it's a very rare album.

Just FYI, it's under MGM album records 1E/S1E-8ST 12inch vinyl MONO. It's
shaped like a a fold-open cover with some sort of book included with it.

Here is the track list on my copy :

Overture
Scott & Pat - Sarti & Louise
Theme from "Grand Prix"
Sarti's love theme (Bossa Nova)
The Zandvoort race (Scott's Comeback)
The Clermont race
Scott's theme (Bossa Nova)
Sarti's love theme
In the Garden
The Lonely Race Track
Total time : 41minutes

There is also a best of album of Maurice Jarre (who scored  the music for
the movie and an incredible amount of great scores such as Lawrence of
Arabia, The Longest Day and Doctor Zhivago) by mmmm... Rhino Records I think
that includes music from the movie (NOT the one from Silva Screen).  There
is so many great scores by the artist that it's hard to find the theme in
his CD "best-of" releases.  It included the main theme from the movie Im
about sure.  Btw, the main theme from the movie is somehow re-used in "The
Love bug".  Made me smile when I heard it last week ;)   Great funny racing
movie.

I think I once saw the theme on an album by the Cinema Sound Stage Orchestra
He's still doing movie scores at the age of 76 btw!  He is also the father
of Jean-Michel Jarre.  Yeah, the same guy who played at the pyramids for
Y2k.

-- movie music buff of r.a.s.
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net

(snip)

First off, thanks for the binary posting!

Don't take this as a personal attack- given the hair-trigger nonsense
about anything involving the Net these days, caution is certainly
prudent...but...

While the spirit of what you're saying is reasonable, you're pushing
the point by arguing that posting this is illegal-

Speedvision and AMC both show this film quite frequently. Complaining
about rebroadcasts (usenet posting, albeit a minor snippet, certainly
fits the bill) is as absurd as complaining about people circulating
tapes for personal viewing. Have you ever borrowed a tape from a
friend, with no monetary compensation, to watch, say, a Grand Prix? If
you live in the US, you probably have!! By your logic, this too is
illegal. Are web sites showing snips of Grand Prix qualifying illegal?
I sure hope not, because I can't get the goddamn qualifying on TV, but
that's another story for another day....and if so, why hasn't the FIA
prosecuted them? They're certainly ruthless enough.....

Who's to say that I don't have a copy of Grand Prix (I do) and sampled
the songs- in fact, a stereo broadcast taped onto a VCR has a better
sound quality than any pre-made audio tape, and it's clearly better
than recording from an LP.  Then I give the samples to a friend, for
the same price as the net posting cost. Nothing. Do I owe anybody
$200? Does he?

Did I pay for the film I recorded? Nope- taped it when AMC was doing a
free-weekend preview.  The only difference between is how you arrived
at the samples- did you record from your videotape (again, personal
use here, it's never been illegal to tape a broadcast) or did you
download from the net? You can argue about the evil internet all you
want- the distribution medium is the only difference. How does that
make it illegal? If I don't sell copies, where's the law being broken?

If the producer chooses to make something freely available, how can
you argue that they can file for damages? This isn't "The Phantom
Menace" being posted on the net three months before the VCR version is
released here....this is an ancient movie with an out-of-print
soundtrack. Is the copyright expired? Of course it's not. But how is
this distribution different from a free viewing being taped? I don't
see the copyright arguement entering into this at all, unless it was
sold for a profit.

Good luck finding this soundtrack. You'll be very hard pressed to do
so- and this file certainly wasn't posted for profit, nor was it
posted to deter sales for a nonexistent product. At best, it saved
somebody the time to sample and convert to MP3. Again, personal use is
the arguement here. How can you say there's been any loss to the
producer of the medium when it's freely available to copy (on TV,
radio, whatever)?

Enough prattle. Time to run some laps at the Glen....

J