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How do you get into F1 racing?

Dave Henri

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Dave Henri » Wed, 03 Apr 2002 12:50:48

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Mark Seer

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Mark Seer » Wed, 03 Apr 2002 16:15:50

I believe that the American continent extends both to the north and south of
the USA borders !!

 Are you sure ?

British Actually.

MS

Mark Seer

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Mark Seer » Wed, 03 Apr 2002 16:18:55

A better idea than trying to buy one. I believe Prost recently layed off a
couple of drivers again :-)

MS

Eldre

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Eldre » Thu, 04 Apr 2002 05:24:42



>Well I guess I am in luck then, as I am younger than 25! =)  Yeah I have
>also heard of many tracks and racing schools in las vegas... So is that
>really the only way?  Well, looks like I will have to go to racing school,
>get my racing license, and race every weekend with whatever car I have to
>come across...  But that does seem like a large risk, as registration and
>licesence as well as school costs ALOT of money..not mention the residence
>and all the other expenses....Anywhere in Canada of a place where they race?
>Ontario would be even better if there was....

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Otis

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Otis » Thu, 04 Apr 2002 10:45:36


A lot of good suggestions have already come out.  Let me add one to the
list.  For a young guy who doesn't have rich parents, breaking into
motosports can be a difficult task.  What I suggest you do is start
attending races on the local level.  Hang out in the pits.  Offer your
assistance to anyone and everyone.  A lot of guys will be more then willing
to take you under their wing if you offer to do the many odd jobs a team
needs doing around the pits.  Once teams get to know you and see that you're
a hard worker you'll soon make a name for yourself and if you're lucky you
may just get a test drive in exchange for your services. Plus, you may find
out that racing isn't as glamourous as it appears to be and you'll be
thankful that instead of spending loads of cash to discover this, you've
only blown a few weekends of your time

tetj

How do you get into F1 racing?

by tetj » Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:42:52

I'll second this recommendation. What's neat about this book is that Smith
tells you how to go about the job of being a race car driver and how to get
it. If you are at all discouraged after reading Smith's book, realize that
you probably don't have the dedication required.  Buy every one of Carrol
Smith's books. Read them front to back and back to front.

When it comes to where to start, Karts are the only answer. Get into one of
the Yamaha or Briggs classes and learn how to race. There's no real point to
going to racing school yet as you'll learn just as much from the kart. From
there shifter karts are a valid option (check out SKUSA's web site). Learn
how to set up the Kart and learn race car engineering. Test driver is a
valid way into some series and if you can speak the engineering lingo that's
a head start. You'll need to realize that race car driver is one of the most
sought after jobs in the world, and that if you're serious about this you'll
need to spend just about every waking moment working on your career.

The problem with being from the US and wanting to get into F1 or CART is
that there is nothing approaching professional status in the lower ranks of
road racing in the US. And no SCCA does not count. England is probably the
place to go to race against real competition and catch the eye of someone. A
simpler choice in the US would be the stock car route as it's fairly clear
what the next level is whatever the level you're currently running at. And
driving stock cars would still be better than working :)


> Buy this book, "Drive to Win" and read every word:

>  http://www.sae.org/servlets/productDetail?PROD_TYP=BOOK&PROD_CD=B-701

> Carroll Smith has been there, done that...several times.


> > This is probably the wrong place to ask...but I was wondering of how one
> > gets into formula racing or cart (the real thing).  I have always
wondered
> > how so many people can get into real proffesional racing but never
talked
> > about how they actually entered.  Is it through training such as racing
> > school where there are people who scout for drivers or is there some
sort of
> > tryout with a manufacturer?  I am seriously considering in to going in
this,
> > so any help is appreciated!

> > thanks,
> > Matt Dunko (remember that name!)   =)


Matthew V. Jessic

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Matthew V. Jessic » Sat, 06 Apr 2002 11:38:59


> This is probably the wrong place to ask...but I was wondering of how one
> gets into formula racing or cart (the real thing).  I have always wondered
> how so many people can get into real proffesional racing but never talked
> about how they actually entered.  Is it through training such as racing
> school where there are people who scout for drivers or is there some sort of
> tryout with a manufacturer?  I am seriously considering in to going in this,
> so any help is appreciated!

Spend a $1000 and take a one day course from one of the good
racing schools. You will get some basics and get to drive an
actual race vehicle for a couple hours. It's well worth doing
for us hobbyists too, even if only as a once in a lifetime thing.  
And if you find you don't have natural talent,
then "Other Sports Beckon" as they say ;) and you have saved
yourself some time while still having great fun :)

If you were an engineer then you would do a literature search.
Of course, as an engineer you would probably already
be too old to start out! ;)

These two books discuss getting into racing and helping set
reasonable expectations and how to come up with plan for
your career.

"The Successful Race Car Driver, A Career Development Handbook,"
Robert Metcalf, SAE, Warrendale, PA, 1999. ISBN 0-7680-0497-7,
SAE Order Number R-254

"Drive to Win, The Essential Guide to Race Driving," Carroll Smith,
Carroll Smith Consulting, Inc., Palos Verdes Etates, CA, 1996.
ISBN-0-9651600-0-9

We have a professional race driver who consults with
our company ( http://www.jeffharrison.com/
pictured in the first reference above as it turns out.)
He works several racing related jobs (driving instructor,
videogame consultant, etc.) as he navigates the seas of
sponsorships and series selection.

- Matt

Dunk

How do you get into F1 racing?

by Dunk » Sun, 07 Apr 2002 10:39:29

Thanks for all who replied...looks like I have alot of reading to do...




> > This is probably the wrong place to ask...but I was wondering of how one
> > gets into formula racing or cart (the real thing).  I have always
wondered
> > how so many people can get into real proffesional racing but never
talked
> > about how they actually entered.  Is it through training such as racing
> > school where there are people who scout for drivers or is there some
sort of
> > tryout with a manufacturer?  I am seriously considering in to going in
this,
> > so any help is appreciated!

> Spend a $1000 and take a one day course from one of the good
> racing schools. You will get some basics and get to drive an
> actual race vehicle for a couple hours. It's well worth doing
> for us hobbyists too, even if only as a once in a lifetime thing.
> And if you find you don't have natural talent,
> then "Other Sports Beckon" as they say ;) and you have saved
> yourself some time while still having great fun :)

> If you were an engineer then you would do a literature search.
> Of course, as an engineer you would probably already
> be too old to start out! ;)

> These two books discuss getting into racing and helping set
> reasonable expectations and how to come up with plan for
> your career.

> "The Successful Race Car Driver, A Career Development Handbook,"
> Robert Metcalf, SAE, Warrendale, PA, 1999. ISBN 0-7680-0497-7,
> SAE Order Number R-254

> "Drive to Win, The Essential Guide to Race Driving," Carroll Smith,
> Carroll Smith Consulting, Inc., Palos Verdes Etates, CA, 1996.
> ISBN-0-9651600-0-9

> We have a professional race driver who consults with
> our company ( http://www.jeffharrison.com/
> pictured in the first reference above as it turns out.)
> He works several racing related jobs (driving instructor,
> videogame consultant, etc.) as he navigates the seas of
> sponsorships and series selection.

> - Matt


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