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GTR- A rather lengthy post

Tiny Lun

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Tiny Lun » Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:26:11

Having recently purchased GTR, I wanted to know a bit about the FIA-GT
technical specifications. Namely, whether or not ABS and Trac-control were
used in the series. I sent an email to FIA and this was their response &
they offerred tecnical regulations relevant to GTR:

Thanks for your email.  I hope you enjoy the game - many of our drivers
have
tried it out, and they all agreed that it was incredibly realistic.
Some of
them were using the simulator to practice some of the circuits, and
were
very impressed...

The full technical regulations can be found on the FIA's web site,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

For a brief summary of the technical regulations for 2003/2004 (ie
relevant
to the GTR game) :

? Vehicle type eligibility:
Vehicles are eligible in two different classes: GT and N-GT. For a
vehicle
to be eligible, it must be a car homologated by the FIA (GT and N-GT)
or a
car from the list of acceptable cars drawn up by the FIA (N-GT).
? Electronic system:
Any automatic or electronic chassis control system or function is
forbidden
even if it is fitted on the original car. This includes anti-lock
braking
system, traction control, damper, suspension or ride height adjustment,
power braking, four-wheel steering, movable ballast in both categories
as
well as automatic or semi-automatic transmissions, power-driven
clutches,
electronically or automatically adjusted final drive differential
systems in
the GT category. Semi-automatic or automatic gearboxes and
differentials
with electronic, pneumatic or hydraulic slip control and closed-loop
electronically controlled system are prohibited, unless they are fitted
on
the series vehicle homologated by the FIA or the list of acceptable
cars
drawn up by the FIA in the N-GT class. A simple open-loop electrical
switch
activated by the driver acting on a system is not considered to be an
electronic control. Power steering may be employed as long as it is a
simple
system, without programmable control.
? Bodywork dimensions:
All bodywork dimensions and shape must remain original with the
exception of
alterations permitted under Article 3.6 (strengthening of the chassis
and
bodywork, rear wing, bodywork width, air inlets, etc) and those
required by
Article 3.51 (Between the front and rear wheel centre lines, all
bodywork
visible from directly beneath the car, with the exception of wheel
arches
and exhaust tunnels, must lie on one plane. This plane, called Flat
Bottom
or Reference Surface, must be a uniform, solid, hard, rigid (no degree
of
freedom in relation to the body/chassis unit), impervious surface,
under all
circumstances).
? Minimum weight: The weight of the car must not be less than 1100 kg.
? Engine: The make and type of engine used must remain original.
? GT: The position of the engine is free provided the location and
orientation remain original. The interior dimensions of the***pit
must
remain original if the engine is re-positioned.
? N-GT: Its location, position and orientation, but replacing the
original
mountings to the chassis is allowed.
? Fuel capacity:  the maximum amount of fuel, which may be carried on
board,
is 100 litres.
? Transmission: The transmission system is free.
? Brakes: The brake discs must be made from ferrous material. The use
of
titanium is authorised for the brake pistons. Any anti-lock braking
function
and any power braking function are forbidden.
? Complete wheels dimensions:
Maximum width: GT:  14 inches
          N-GT: 12 inches for a weight < 1300 kg
14 inches for a weight >= 1300 kg
? Maximum diameter: 28 inches
? The maximum authorised diameter of the rims is 18''

evente..

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by evente.. » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:09:01

Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support.  Too bad
the wordwide release got so delayed.
Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package...
Mitch_

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Mitch_ » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:48:33


> Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support.  Too bad
> the wordwide release got so delayed.
> Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package...

How delayed?  I was under the impression international release was this
month?

Mitch
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evente..

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by evente.. » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:59:09



> > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support.  Too
bad
> > the wordwide release got so delayed.
> > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package...

> How delayed?  I was under the impression international release was
this
> month?

> Mitch
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I meant compared to the German version.  I'll be pretty chapped if I
see it in the store before my DE version gets here.  At least its for a
good cause.

Kendt

Mitch_

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Mitch_ » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:27:15




>> > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support.  Too
> bad
>> > the wordwide release got so delayed.
>> > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package...

>> How delayed?  I was under the impression international release was
> this
>> month?

>> Mitch
>> --
>> Remove "nospam." to reply.
>> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a.
>> YaSTastic!

> I meant compared to the German version.  I'll be pretty chapped if I
> see it in the store before my DE version gets here.  At least its for a
> good cause.

> Kendt

I sure hope either GTR or R-Factor come soon.  Im drooling bad and need a
fix soon :-)

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Chad Roger

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Chad Roger » Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:22

GTR isn't hard to order and you will have 99% of the game is English, why
wait?

Chad

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>>> > Now *here* is a series, and a sim, that deserves our support.  Too
>> bad
>>> > the wordwide release got so delayed.
>>> > Kendt - still anxiously awaiting my Drivers Emporium package...

>>> How delayed?  I was under the impression international release was
>> this
>>> month?

>>> Mitch
>>> --
>>> Remove "nospam." to reply.
>>> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a.
>>> YaSTastic!

>> I meant compared to the German version.  I'll be pretty chapped if I
>> see it in the store before my DE version gets here.  At least its for a
>> good cause.

>> Kendt

> I sure hope either GTR or R-Factor come soon.  Im drooling bad and need a
> fix soon :-)

> Mitch
> --
> Remove "nospam." to reply.
> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE3.3.2a.
> YaSTastic!

Marn

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Marn » Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:06:12


Because there is less than 3 weeks to the release of the English version.

Marni

Damien Smit

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Damien Smit » Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:02:44

That's news to me.  Last I heard it was possibly going to be released in
late February.  The problem with the German version is that every time a new
patch is released you have to wait a week or two for a new English patch.

Byron Forbe

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Byron Forbe » Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:12:27


    Not too mention a week or 2 for a patch to fix what the last patch
screwed up! :)

Damien Smit

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Damien Smit » Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:52:17

True, but at least they're trying and this is their first game so I'm
prepared to cut them a little slack.

Jussi Koukk

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Jussi Koukk » Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:51:59

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:02:44 +1000, "Damien Smith"

Ummm... what? I've only used one english patch so far, and it has
worked with all GTR pathces, including the latest (1.2.3.0).

BTW, I ordered my copy from amazon.de in November... didn't want to
wait for the 1Q/2005 release. The local publisher/distributor
(PanVision) said something about late February...
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Damien Smit

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Damien Smit » Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:39:18

Only the basic game.dic would possibly be capable of working with all
versions (I strongly doubt it) and even it has been updated by some people
to work with the 1.1 and then again for the 1.2 patch.  An updated game.dic
only makes the game about 70% english.  All of the loading/menu screens are
packed into files which have changed quite considerably with each patch and
there's no possible way that they could work unless you extracted them and
injected them manually into the new files.

Jussi Koukk

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Jussi Koukk » Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:58:18

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:39:18 +1000, "Damien Smith"

Yes, you're right, with the new GTR patched I indeed have one "Rck"
button instead of a "Back/Return" button. And some track loading
screens say "Lade" and "Rennen" instead of "Loading" and "Race".

I don't know how I've managed to play the "german" GTR without waiting
two weeks for a updated translation after each patch... ;)
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Damien Smit

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Damien Smit » Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:06:17

Probably not a big deal for people in non-english speaking countries as I'm
sure they're used to having a mish-mash of languages on TV, games etc.  I'd
prefer to own a 100% english version but maybe I'm weird.

Byron Forbe

GTR- A rather lengthy post

by Byron Forbe » Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:14:02


    Sure - lets face it, we're volunteer beta testers. I have my doubts it
will be quite were I'd like it to be in a month but 1.23 has certainly made
it useable at least. It's easy to have been spoilt by all the Papy polish
over the years. :)


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