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Papy banning people from their N4 Forum now!!!

B. Hilt

Papy banning people from their N4 Forum now!!!

by B. Hilt » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:57:24

actually the BBB is looking into this and I will receive a letter in
the mail of the status in a few weeks


> > (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) :)


> > | They're probably sick of hearing it too.  The real kicker will be when
> > | the BBB stops answering their phones when you call them to complain
> > | (again).
> > | --
> > | Fester

> I beginning to suspect he suffers from some sort of obsessive/compulsive
> disorder.  ;-)

Matthew V. Jessic

Papy banning people from their N4 Forum now!!!

by Matthew V. Jessic » Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:26:15

This is the way online economics works.
(Comments from papers presented at various game developer
conferences.)

"5% of the people cause 95% of the trouble" that costs a company money.
(Support costs including managing events, servers, forums, support calls
and emails complaining about bad player actions, etc.)

Unless the system is pay by the hour, handling the problems
caused by those 5% is very hard to support by income.
It is far more optimal to weed out those troublemakers viciously.
The more players one has, the more efficient it is to just weed weed
weed with a giant weed eater that occasionally takes out
undeserving players as well. Because the false positives by the nature
of the system aren't individually supporting the system sufficiently
to make special handling efficient.

You can complain about fairness, but this is just economics.
It doesn't have to be fair.

"All you can eat" ISPs tend to do the same thing. A user trips the
bandwidth alarm and boom! He's gone with no argument and on to prune
the next one...  This is basic "all you can eat" economics.


> Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from
> their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading
> my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people
> talking about why banning isn't right...

> well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they
> aren't being banned... is it fair?  I have repurchased the game...and
> use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply
> the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now
> I can't even post a msg....

> papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions...
> and I am by far not the only one who thinks this.  There is A LOT of
> people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and
> disagreeing with the moderators.


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