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Time for a new system - Specs required!

Steve Simpso

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Steve Simpso » Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:23:14

GEIL is good, nothing special though.  It's probably better value than
Corsair (both the high-end and the low-end GEIL RAM)  To say Corsair RAM is
a joke is ridiculous.

Have Seagate upgraded their models recently? ...because about 6 months ago
Western Digital's new drives were cooler, quieter, faster and cheaper than
any Seagate drive with the same warranty.  I used to always buy Seagate
drives because they were the quietest but not last time around.

The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:18:14

About 3 months ago I built a 1.8TB RAID-5 in my home server using 6 Seagate
300GB Sata drives.

You can barely tell the things are even running.

-Larry


The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:51:30

I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon X2-4800+
EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
Antec Truepower 2.0 550
Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

-Larry

Don Burnett

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Don Burnett » Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:58:55


Sweet!

I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+, with a
Radeon X800 card.

--
Don Burnette

Chang Li

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Chang Li » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:09:03

I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
real life.. :)


>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>> -Larry

> Sweet!

> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+, with a
> Radeon X800 card.

The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:19:43

Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do every few
years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card here, ram here,
something else there, etc...

But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right time for me
to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and there
upgrades.

-Larry


>I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in real
>life.. :)



>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>> -Larry

>> Sweet!

>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+, with a
>> Radeon X800 card.

PlowBo

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by PlowBo » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 06:36:31

So, who'd you order it all from, and how much was it?    did you piece every
part?  or do newegg for it all or have a buddy in teh parst business?

I have been going to do same, with the following excpetions (of course not
all brands are matching)

DFI Lanparty sli board
3800+ cpu
using onboard sound on dfi
7800 256 meg pci-e card of some "sale" flavor.

I see you got a sound card, hmmm  or is that NOT what the Xfi elite pro is?

Larry (The Other Larry) enlightened us with:

> Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do
> every few years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card
> here, ram here, something else there, etc...

> But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right time
> for me to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

> Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and there
> upgrades.

> -Larry



>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>> real life.. :)



>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>> -Larry

>>> Sweet!

>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

Chang Li

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Chang Li » Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:24:40

Onboard sound blows. Xfi makes it look like a mouse trying to replace a
symphonic orchestra.

You comparing top of the line in soundcard to the budget man's soundcard..


> So, who'd you order it all from, and how much was it?    did you piece every
> part?  or do newegg for it all or have a buddy in teh parst business?

> I have been going to do same, with the following excpetions (of course not
> all brands are matching)

> DFI Lanparty sli board
> 3800+ cpu
> using onboard sound on dfi
> 7800 256 meg pci-e card of some "sale" flavor.

> I see you got a sound card, hmmm  or is that NOT what the Xfi elite pro is?

> Larry (The Other Larry) enlightened us with:
>> Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do
>> every few years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card
>> here, ram here, something else there, etc...

>> But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right time
>> for me to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

>> Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and there
>> upgrades.

>> -Larry



>>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>>> real life.. :)



>>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>>> -Larry

>>>> Sweet!

>>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

Don Burnett

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Don Burnett » Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:38:33

Well, no racer here, but I do work hard :)...

I did just pull the trigger on the following from Newegg:

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum socket 939 Nforce4 mb
AMD X2 4400+ dual core processor ( 2 x 1g level 2 cache  )
Thermalrite XP90 heatsink  ( like to overclock)
Saphire X850XT PCIe 256 mb video card
2 gb Corsair PC3500LL Pro ( 2 x 1gb) matched ram
2 ea WD 250 gb 7200 rpm  Sata hard drives
Plextor PX-740A/SW dl dvd burner

( yes, I like to do a little video encoding as well )
:) - hence, the decision to go with the higher cache chip.

I am upgrading my current system, which is an MSI K8N Neo2 Nforce3 socket
939 , with Athlon XP64 3500+, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro,  1gb pc3200LL Corsair
ram. I will be assembling a system with these left over components for my
girlfriend.

I will probably be dual booting with XP Pro 32 and XP Pro 64, and should be
in good shape for Vista when it is released.

Larry, I would be interested to hear, how you like the new Creative X-Fi
soundcard. I am sticking with my Audigy2 ZS for now, as I am still pretty
happy with it. I really like the sound on my Klipsch 5.1 Ultra speakers.
I may upgrade to the X-Fi at some point in the future though, just curious
what I might gain from it.

Don


> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
> real life.. :)



>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>> -Larry

>> Sweet!

>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>> with a Radeon X800 card.

The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:45:15

All from NewEgg.  About $1900.

-Larry


> So, who'd you order it all from, and how much was it?    did you piece
> every part?  or do newegg for it all or have a buddy in teh parst
> business?

> I have been going to do same, with the following excpetions (of course not
> all brands are matching)

> DFI Lanparty sli board
> 3800+ cpu
> using onboard sound on dfi
> 7800 256 meg pci-e card of some "sale" flavor.

> I see you got a sound card, hmmm  or is that NOT what the Xfi elite pro
> is?

> Larry (The Other Larry) enlightened us with:
>> Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do
>> every few years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card
>> here, ram here, something else there, etc...

>> But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right time
>> for me to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

>> Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and there
>> upgrades.

>> -Larry



>>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>>> real life.. :)



>>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>>> -Larry

>>>> Sweet!

>>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:45:46

To say the X-Fi Elite Pro is a soundcard is an understatement :)

-Larry


> So, who'd you order it all from, and how much was it?    did you piece
> every part?  or do newegg for it all or have a buddy in teh parst
> business?

> I have been going to do same, with the following excpetions (of course not
> all brands are matching)

> DFI Lanparty sli board
> 3800+ cpu
> using onboard sound on dfi
> 7800 256 meg pci-e card of some "sale" flavor.

> I see you got a sound card, hmmm  or is that NOT what the Xfi elite pro
> is?

> Larry (The Other Larry) enlightened us with:
>> Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do
>> every few years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card
>> here, ram here, something else there, etc...

>> But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right time
>> for me to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

>> Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and there
>> upgrades.

>> -Larry



>>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>>> real life.. :)



>>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>>> -Larry

>>>> Sweet!

>>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:47:49

I have the same Klipsh speakers.

My main gripe with the ZS has always been there is a hum in the system until
the cards drivers are loaded, and then it goes away.  Drives me nuts.

Good card though.  I wanted the X-Fi Pro Elite because it has, amongst other
things, a Guitar input in the breakout box.

-Larry


> Well, no racer here, but I do work hard :)...

> I did just pull the trigger on the following from Newegg:

> MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum socket 939 Nforce4 mb
> AMD X2 4400+ dual core processor ( 2 x 1g level 2 cache  )
> Thermalrite XP90 heatsink  ( like to overclock)
> Saphire X850XT PCIe 256 mb video card
> 2 gb Corsair PC3500LL Pro ( 2 x 1gb) matched ram
> 2 ea WD 250 gb 7200 rpm  Sata hard drives
> Plextor PX-740A/SW dl dvd burner

> ( yes, I like to do a little video encoding as well )
> :) - hence, the decision to go with the higher cache chip.

> I am upgrading my current system, which is an MSI K8N Neo2 Nforce3 socket
> 939 , with Athlon XP64 3500+, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro,  1gb pc3200LL Corsair
> ram. I will be assembling a system with these left over components for my
> girlfriend.

> I will probably be dual booting with XP Pro 32 and XP Pro 64, and should
> be in good shape for Vista when it is released.

> Larry, I would be interested to hear, how you like the new Creative X-Fi
> soundcard. I am sticking with my Audigy2 ZS for now, as I am still pretty
> happy with it. I really like the sound on my Klipsch 5.1 Ultra speakers.
> I may upgrade to the X-Fi at some point in the future though, just curious
> what I might gain from it.

> Don


>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>> real life.. :)



>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>> -Larry

>>> Sweet!

>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

The Other Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by The Other Larr » Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:46:44

That's not a Star, that's a BASE STATION!!!

I just got the goodies in from NewEgg.

Aye Corumba, you should see the size of the Break-Out Box that comes with
this X-Fi Elite Pro!  Sheesh!

It's literally about the same size as the AN832-SLI Motherboard itself!

The AMD 4800+ X2 looks neat mounted on this board.  With the copper-pipe and
sink cooling system on the chipsets and power components, along with the
copper radiator (no fans on the MB other than the CPU) and the
dragster-style copper pipes coming out the side of the Heat Sink, it's neat.

This is the first time I've mouted an Athlon, though it's my third one.  The
local store I normally buy my boards/cpu's from mounts them for free when
you purchase.

It was nerve racking to put clip $1000 worth of CPU and motherboard together
the first time :)

-Larry



> All from NewEgg.  About $1900.

> -Larry



>> So, who'd you order it all from, and how much was it?    did you piece
>> every part?  or do newegg for it all or have a buddy in teh parst
>> business?

>> I have been going to do same, with the following excpetions (of course
>> not all brands are matching)

>> DFI Lanparty sli board
>> 3800+ cpu
>> using onboard sound on dfi
>> 7800 256 meg pci-e card of some "sale" flavor.

>> I see you got a sound card, hmmm  or is that NOT what the Xfi elite pro
>> is?

>> Larry (The Other Larry) enlightened us with:
>>> Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do
>>> every few years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card
>>> here, ram here, something else there, etc...

>>> But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right time
>>> for me to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

>>> Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and there
>>> upgrades.

>>> -Larry



>>>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>>>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>>>> real life.. :)



>>>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>>>> -Larry

>>>>> Sweet!

>>>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

Larr

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Larr » Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:33:36

Well, that's a tough one...  The problem is, everyone has different ears.
And sound is very subjective.

To me, does it sound better than the ZS?  Yes.  Especially when the 24-bit
crystalizer is enabled.  It makes an MP3 of "Comfortably Numb" not quite so
numb, and those glorious Gilmour solo's really sing out :)

But there's the feature list too.  Best thing to do there is to compare it
to the ZS on the web page.  Both of these cards have about 40 times more
features than anyone needs.  The X-Fi Pro Elite is just a bit further off
the hook :)

Did I mention the breakout-box is huge?  Nearly twice the size of the ZS,
but it's got a lot more functionality.

And they finally put the Optical Digital ports on the BACK of the unit where
they belong.  I don't know what they were thinking on the ZS box by putting
it on the front.

-Larry


> Larry, I would be interested to hear, how you like the new Creative X-Fi
> soundcard. I am sticking with my Audigy2 ZS for now, as I am still pretty
> happy with it. I really like the sound on my Klipsch 5.1 Ultra speakers.
> I may upgrade to the X-Fi at some point in the future though, just curious
> what I might gain from it.

> Don


>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races in
>> real life.. :)



>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>> -Larry

>>> Sweet!

>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon X2-4400+,
>>> with a Radeon X800 card.

Don Burnett

Time for a new system - Specs required!

by Don Burnett » Sun, 05 Feb 2006 07:32:31

I hear ya!

I just got back in town from being gone all week on business, all my
hardware is here as well.
Going to start backing up some data tonight ( since I am moving to sata
drives ) and if I can get motivated tomorrow will start assembling this
puppy.

Don


> That's not a Star, that's a BASE STATION!!!

> I just got the goodies in from NewEgg.

> Aye Corumba, you should see the size of the Break-Out Box that comes
> with this X-Fi Elite Pro!  Sheesh!

> It's literally about the same size as the AN832-SLI Motherboard
> itself!
> The AMD 4800+ X2 looks neat mounted on this board.  With the
> copper-pipe and sink cooling system on the chipsets and power
> components, along with the copper radiator (no fans on the MB other
> than the CPU) and the dragster-style copper pipes coming out the side
> of the Heat Sink, it's neat.
> This is the first time I've mouted an Athlon, though it's my third
> one.  The local store I normally buy my boards/cpu's from mounts them
> for free when you purchase.

> It was nerve racking to put clip $1000 worth of CPU and motherboard
> together the first time :)

> -Larry



>> All from NewEgg.  About $1900.

>> -Larry



>>> So, who'd you order it all from, and how much was it?    did you
>>> piece every part?  or do newegg for it all or have a buddy in teh
>>> parst business?

>>> I have been going to do same, with the following excpetions (of
>>> course not all brands are matching)

>>> DFI Lanparty sli board
>>> 3800+ cpu
>>> using onboard sound on dfi
>>> 7800 256 meg pci-e card of some "sale" flavor.

>>> I see you got a sound card, hmmm  or is that NOT what the Xfi elite
>>> pro is?

>>> Larry (The Other Larry) enlightened us with:
>>>> Nah, for me it's just the 'catch up' upgrade that you have to do
>>>> every few years.  Normally for me it's a processor here, video card
>>>> here, ram here, something else there, etc...

>>>> But, with the required changeover to PCIe video it was the right
>>>> time for me to do the 'catch up' upgrade.

>>>> Over the next few years I'll be able to go back to the here and
>>>> there upgrades.

>>>> -Larry



>>>>> I wonder where you guys pull this kind of money for these kind of
>>>>> upgrades.. Maybe if you are amateur racer and you win a few races
>>>>> in real life.. :)



>>>>>>> I just pulled the trigger on an upgrade myself...

>>>>>>> ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
>>>>>>> AMD Athlon X2-4800+
>>>>>>> EVGA 7800 GTX ViVo 256MB
>>>>>>> Antec Truepower 2.0 550
>>>>>>> Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA-II
>>>>>>> Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

>>>>>>> -Larry

>>>>>> Sweet!

>>>>>> I am about to order the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB, Athlon
>>>>>> X2-4400+, with a Radeon X800 card.


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