rec.autos.simulators

How much improvement should I expect if I do invest in a good steering wheel
setup?

As challenging as it was for me to get a 1:23, I can't help feeling that my
joystick contributed to several minor mistakes that could have added at
least 2/10ths or more.

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Kip C. Anderson
kca at rio dot com

If you want to compare your times to the best out there your going to have
to get into hot lapping. This is going into practice with just enough fuel
for the out lap and to cross line line with a setup that wears the hell out
of the plank and wouldnt last a few more laps.

With a hotlap setup and some luck Ive hit 1:20 a few times using keyboard
steering/throttle help on. You should also use an editor to set your engine
power at a constant value.

http://gallery.uunet.be/year1440/main_framepage.htm

this address is for a keyboard hotlap page, but I think he's running an
anologue controller contest aswell.

Whith a wheel you can turn off steering help and still controll the car, if
you practice a "lot". I allways was slower with the short times ive had
friends wheels but you can see that with lots of practice you could get a
few seconds out of being able to slide the car harder and giving more
throttle.

Berno

My fastest (using the keyboard) at Monza was 1:22. Bear in mind using
keyboard means you have to have throttle help and steering help *ON*
or its undriveable?

The fast wheel and keyboard guys were probably way under 1:20?

8-)

*Peter*   #:-)

Most of them are running fairly large amounts of front wing and a stiff
front suspension.

Being that I'm using a joystick, the only cheat that I take advantage of is
the shifting help, but these setups seem to be overly loose in the chicanes
upon turn-in.  However, I found that I was gaining as much as 10-15 mph out
of Curva Di Lesmos (the last turns before the straight under the bridge) by
using the higher front down force, however I have to slow down more going
into the corners to avoid a spin and be more reserved with the power on
exit.

Is there anybody that's not using the keyboard and a setup like this, or is
the high front stiffness and downforce just a bonus with being able to use
the steering and throttle help?  The balance just seems way off but is
apparently  negated by using the additional cheats.

Maybe it's just me or my controller, but completing a full lap without a
shunt is much more challenging with this type of setup and no throttle/steer
help.

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Kip C. Anderson
kca at rio dot com

my best is a 127.62  I thought that was fast

Rick

With GP2 or GPL?

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash

http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824

1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

Don Burnette
Dburn on Ten

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Ian Parker

ICQ   21772592

Although  1:23 is either good or very good, (according to the slot which
your Monza is in !!!)

Ben Summers

  Using a TM steering wheel & CH Pro Pedals (no steering help)
 and with '98 Track Pack &  '98 CarSet, race set-up (Pro mode)
 I can lap an average of 1:23 on race and my best is 1:19.589
 But I know a lot of guys who can do a lot better than me on Monza.

  Daniel Turmel
  Montreal, Quebec

8-)

*Peter*   #:-)