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iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

Larr

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Larr » Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:23:29

I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta
tell you...

The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
possibly even the real thing :)

And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this
non-RC guy.

I can live with the Solstice (somewhat).  I find the skippy barely
interesting.  I positively HATE the Mazda.  The Radical is the first RC car
to really capture my imagination at all.

Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :)

I simply don't do well in under-powered cars.  Not sure what that means :)
It was the same for Ovals.  Until I got to the trucks, I was a back-marker.
Now I can get top 5's fairly easily.

Larry

Ed Medli

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Ed Medli » Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:52:20


What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on
Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning the
Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with a
good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really helped
a ton.

Ed

Gary

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Gary » Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:51:56

My only issue with the Glen (and Limerock and Summit Point also) is
that they are a year behind on the track surface. All three tracks
have had full repaves (though Summit is coming apart already) and have
no more concrete on them. Not sure what that does for grip (in the
game, I KNOW what it did in RL) but wonder what iRacing intends on
doing about it as they advertise accuracy pretty heavily..

GR




>> I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta
>> tell you...

>> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
>> possibly even the real thing :)

>> And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this
>> non-RC guy.

>> I can live with the Solstice (somewhat).  I find the skippy barely
>> interesting.  I positively HATE the Mazda.  The Radical is the first RC
>> car to really capture my imagination at all.

>> Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :)

>> I simply don't do well in under-powered cars.  Not sure what that means :)
>> It was the same for Ovals.  Until I got to the trucks, I was a
>> back-marker. Now I can get top 5's fairly easily.

>> Larry

>What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on
>Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning the
>Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with a
>good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really helped
>a ton.

>Ed

Andrew MacPhers

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:17:00


> but wonder what iRacing intends on
> doing about it as they advertise accuracy pretty heavily..

I have absolutely no idea how they will ever be able to afford the updates
necessary to keep a large number of tracks accurate. It will be a real challenge to
match their marketing with the reality. Either one or the other will have to give.

Having said that, even an out of date iRacing track may be more of a selling point
to the real racing fraternity than anything any other sim can offer. But I remain
convinced that's a marketing dead end anyway, and the average simmer isn't going to
be too worried about such things as long as everyone's racing on the same surface.

Not that iRacing's particularly interested in the average simmer at the moment...
but they will be, eventually. Whether they like it or not. :->

Andrew McP

PS Although I've been away again from the iRacing zoo for over three weeks now, and
am currently getting my sim kicks at an incredibly realistic (looking) Nordschleife

little. It looked like quite a lot of fun to drive.

I just don't fancy paying iRacing for months and months in order to climb the
ladder and finally get the opportunity to race the car. I may not enjoy it in
traffic as much as I think, and my reaction times are probably far better suited to
the Skip Barber.

hoove

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by hoove » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:36:39

I've noted the iracing buzz dropping off in RAS quite noticeably from
quite a few msgs a day when it was opened to the public to its current
level... looks like another group of people has left for the forums ;-)

Cheers, Uwe

--

PlowBoy

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by PlowBoy » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:27:41

I don't know, I mean seems like the posts here are cyclical, when new: lots
of posts.  iracing is now technically old news (it seems).  Plus, the only
debate seems to be that it is too expensive for some, or too many elitists.
hell, the longest threads seem to be over if you thought it was worth it or
not, instead of anything else about it really.  both sides get tired of that
issue.

Like ***, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or else
it seems too expensive?  have you gone to any other thing in your life
(except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a better
deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride, compared to the
all day/all ride pass?   no.

you still on it, racing Uwe?


Andrew MacPhers

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Andrew MacPhers » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:28:00


> iracing is now technically old news (it seems).

Agreed. I think everyone in the sim racing universe now knows where they stand on
the service, which is why current subscription numbers probably represent what the
current business model will support. Growth under that model will now only come
from the great unknown... non simmers.

Andrew McP

David Fisher's Left Testicl

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by David Fisher's Left Testicl » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:25:23


Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance?

Byron Forbe

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Byron Forbe » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:26:15





>> Like ***, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or
>> else it seems too expensive?  have you gone to any other thing in your
>> life (except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a
>> better deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride,
>> compared to the all day/all ride pass?   no.

> Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance?

    Hmmmm.....$156 for a year - I've spent more than that on a night on the
town! And for $156 I get not only a first rate sim but a first rate service.
I also don't need to spend countless hours working out where all the tracks
are or how to make this mod work on this server, etc, etc,
etc.........straight into the racing...........as it should be!

    Any experienced simmer should identify with the above mentioned hassles
over the years - iRacing solves all of that. How much is that worth?

hoove

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by hoove » Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:08:04


> you still on it, racing Uwe?

my subscription expires at the end of December and I have no plans to
renew at the moment, having too much fun with the Screamers Racing
League and the BMW E21's at the moment ;-)

Uwe

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PlowBo

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by PlowBo » Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:12:35





>> Like ***, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or
>> else it seems too expensive?  have you gone to any other thing in your
>> life (except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a
>> better deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride,
>> compared to the all day/all ride pass?   no.

> Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance?

NO SHIT!!!!  What the fuk would you be buying if you paid for one month?
DUH!

I dont get it, pay 20 bucks, race 2 races, *** it, call it $10 per race?
Tell me, what "per race" deal you want to pay?  I mean we're back to you
agreeing to buy a box of popcorn, but want to pay "per handful?" it takes to
fill the box?  what difference will that make? you get a box of corn dude,
or dont.  Does Tootsie pop sell suckers by the amount of***s they take?
if so then they are cheap as shit, unless you are like the "wise old owl..."
because he only gets 3***s ya know.

I dont get where you think the "per race fee" could possibly work out better
deal for you me or ANY One else?  I bet I race 8 races a week minimum.  so
20-30 races per month, & at 15 bucks a month, that is way less than.75 cents
a race.

You Aren't going to race for free, that is about as plain as it gets.   I
think you are trying to do the same math, but yer not the seller.  You are
thinking you should be able to race a race for a buck?  But you got it
backwards, and the transaction fee on the credit card is more than that.
You know damn well as others do, Everything from Beer or Soda POP, Racing it
is always cheaper if/when you can buy in bulk rate.

Jonathan Mar

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Jonathan Mar » Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:53:22


Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS.

Gary

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Gary » Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:26:24

Wouldn't quite go as far as saying it's anywhere near RL, but it's
very well done. Going up through the S's FO at over 100MPH with the
blue walls just feet away, knowing one mistake = totalled car and a
lot of bouncing, is a bit more intense than sitting at my computer...

GP




>> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
>> possibly even the real thing :)

>Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS.

Gary

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Gary » Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:29:11

The RL starts can be a bit.... hairy as well. This is from the PCA
2008 race at WGI.

http://www.vimeo.com/1122817

8-)
GR


>Wouldn't quite go as far as saying it's anywhere near RL, but it's
>very well done. Going up through the S's FO at over 100MPH with the
>blue walls just feet away, knowing one mistake = totalled car and a
>lot of bouncing, is a bit more intense than sitting at my computer...

>GP




>>> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
>>> possibly even the real thing :)

>>Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS.

Larr

iRacing Watkins Glen and the Radical

by Larr » Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:34:46

I actually finished 4th in the fun run IIRC.  That's amazing for me LOL

But you're right.  A lot wrecked out.

Hey, skill, luck, attrition, I don't care.  I'll take the spots :)

-Larry





>> I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta
>> tell you...

>> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
>> possibly even the real thing :)

>> And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this
>> non-RC guy.

>> I can live with the Solstice (somewhat).  I find the skippy barely
>> interesting.  I positively HATE the Mazda.  The Radical is the first RC
>> car to really capture my imagination at all.

>> Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :)

>> I simply don't do well in under-powered cars.  Not sure what that means
>> :) It was the same for Ovals.  Until I got to the trucks, I was a
>> back-marker. Now I can get top 5's fairly easily.

>> Larry

> What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on
> Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning
> the Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with
> a good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really
> helped a ton.

> Ed


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