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OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

Alison Hin

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by Alison Hin » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:41:04

Hi, guys!

I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately.  I haven't been doing much
sim racing because I've been helping Nate complete our Cobra and get it
ready for its first event.

It's done now and ready to rumble - and it looks, sounds, and feels
*awesome*!

Photos:

  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Alison



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Eric Cot

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by Eric Cot » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:54:59

Simply superb Alison and Nate : congrats !!

> Hi, guys!

> I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately.? I haven't been doing much
> sim racing because I've been helping Nate complete our Cobra and get it
> ready for its first event.

> It's done now and ready to rumble - and it looks, sounds, and feels
> *awesome*!

> Photos:

> ? http://simracing.com/alison/cobra/

> Alison



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Doug Hoo

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by Doug Hoo » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:50:52

Great looking car. That head on shot is now my desktop wallpaper.


> Hi, guys!

> I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately.  I haven't been doing much
> sim racing because I've been helping Nate complete our Cobra and get it
> ready for its first event.

> It's done now and ready to rumble - and it looks, sounds, and feels
> *awesome*!

> Photos:

>   http://simracing.com/alison/cobra/

> Alison



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> http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com

JJ Srickli

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by JJ Srickli » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:10:37

Looks really sweet Alison. You two did an
excellent job of restoration.
Kevin Anderso

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by Kevin Anderso » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:30:44

not a restoration,

--
Kevin Anderson


(Rich#8

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by (Rich#8 » Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:27:42

yup its a kit, kinda like the ones here.

http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/427/427kit.html

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:30:44 GMT, "Kevin Anderson"


>not a restoration,

>--
>Kevin Anderson



>> Looks really sweet Alison. You two did an
>> excellent job of restoration.

Stephen Smit

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by Stephen Smit » Sat, 14 Apr 2001 05:19:14

Looks great, Alison!

--Steve


> Hi, guys!

> I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately.  I haven't been doing much
> sim racing because I've been helping Nate complete our Cobra and get it
> ready for its first event.

> It's done now and ready to rumble - and it looks, sounds, and feels
> *awesome*!

> Photos:

>   http://simracing.com/alison/cobra/

> Alison



> Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me.
> http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com

JOHN METCO

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by JOHN METCO » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:29:13

Hey
where can I download it ?
I keep clicking on the pictures but
the car simply did not download...


> Looks great, Alison!

> --Steve



> > Hi, guys!

> > I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately.  I haven't been doing much
> > sim racing because I've been helping Nate complete our Cobra and get it
> > ready for its first event.

> > It's done now and ready to rumble - and it looks, sounds, and feels
> > *awesome*!

> > Photos:

> >   http://simracing.com/alison/cobra/

> > Alison



> > Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me.
> > http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com

ymenar

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by ymenar » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:21:59


> where can I download it ?
> I keep clicking on the pictures but
> the car simply did not download...

Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

JOHN METCO

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by JOHN METCO » Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:50:36

YESmenard
just kidding around



> > where can I download it ?
> > I keep clicking on the pictures but
> > the car simply did not download...

> Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ra300

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by ra300 » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:56:18




>> where can I download it ?
>> I keep clicking on the pictures but
>> the car simply did not download...

>Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

Yeah that is unfortunate :)  Why can't Alison develop a Cobra for use
in GPL?
JOHN METCO

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by JOHN METCO » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:02:22

HEY

There is a man after my own heart !!!





> >> where can I download it ?
> >> I keep clicking on the pictures but
> >> the car simply did not download...

> >Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

> Yeah that is unfortunate :)  Why can't Alison develop a Cobra for use
> in GPL?

(Rich#8

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by (Rich#8 » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:13:45

It would be nice if GPL was as modifiable as Heat !!!!




>>> where can I download it ?
>>> I keep clicking on the pictures but
>>> the car simply did not download...

>>Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

>Yeah that is unfortunate :)  Why can't Alison develop a Cobra for use
>in GPL?

Alison Hin

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by Alison Hin » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:42:10

Ok, here is a setup I did for the F2 BRM that comes as close to the
Cobra as I can with a GPL car.  

I filled it up with fuel to get closer to the weight of the Cobra.  I
set the spring rates, camber, tire pressures, differential, anti-roll
bars (i.e. none) and other parameters as close as I could get to the
Cobra.  

I had to fudge a little on the dampers to get the car's balance to be
reasonably correct; in reality the Cobra has identical spring/damper
units front and rear.  This is probably because the BRM's weight bias is
a little more rearward, at 64% on the rear wheels as compared to the
Cobra's 55% rear.

The F2 BRM set up this way is lighter and more powerful than the Cobra;
our car has about 240 hp and weighs about 2400 lbs, while the BRM has
about 275 hp and weighs 1837 lbs.  Also the BRM probably has
significantly less drag, due to lower frontal area; the Cobra's street
windshield is like a giant barn door.

So, even though the Cobra's tires (shaved and heat cycled Kumho Victo
Racer DOT-legal racing radials) are probably superior to the 1967 F2
race tires, I would guess that this car is probably somewhat quicker in
terms of overall lap times than the Cobra is in real life.  

Even so, this should give you a fairly good idea of what it's like to
drive the Cobra, especially if you substitute some nice robust American
V8 engine sound for the F2 engine sound in GPL.  Compared to GPL's F1
and F2 cars the way they are normally run, this setup will feel slow on
acceleration, but believe me, in real life it feels anything but slow!

Nate and I ran the Cobra at Lime Rock this past Friday, and we had a
fantastic time.  The car feels and sounds absolutely awesome.  Brakes
are good, handling is precise with very good balance.  Acceleration is,
um, how can I say, very gratifying.  Afterwards, Nate said it is "the
perfect car".

Due to a road mishap on the way, we got to the track late and wound up
in the slowest run groups, so most of our track time turned out to be
"passing practice".  This can be very frustrating, because the club's
rules require you to get a "point-by" from the driver being overtaken
before you can pass, and sometimes the other drivers are not very good
about watching their mirrors.  We both spent a lot of time following
slower cars around.

Still, there's something ego-gratifying about being the fastest car on
the track, passing everything in sight.  Toward the end of the day, we
found out that the optimum passing technique was to fill the slower
car's mirrors, after approaching with a very high closing rate.  This
got their attention and generally got a quick point-by.

Nate is closing the gap on me, too.  My best time was a mid 1:09, and
Nate's best lap was just a second slower.  I think I need to practice
more!

Alison





>>> where can I download it ?
>>> I keep clicking on the pictures but
>>> the car simply did not download...

>>Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

>Yeah that is unfortunate :)  Why can't Alison develop a Cobra for use
>in GPL?

Alison

        --- In loving memory of Kathi Simpson ---


http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com
http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc/

  Cobra.br2
< 1K Download
(Rich#8

OT: Nate and Alison's Cobra is complete!

by (Rich#8 » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:01:28

wow that is excellent, unfortunately my ISP strips binaries from non
binarie news groups. Can someone post this setup, or email it to


mucho thanx ;-)



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>Ok, here is a setup I did for the F2 BRM that comes as close to the
>Cobra as I can with a GPL car.  

>I filled it up with fuel to get closer to the weight of the Cobra.  I
>set the spring rates, camber, tire pressures, differential, anti-roll
>bars (i.e. none) and other parameters as close as I could get to the
>Cobra.  

>I had to fudge a little on the dampers to get the car's balance to be
>reasonably correct; in reality the Cobra has identical spring/damper
>units front and rear.  This is probably because the BRM's weight bias is
>a little more rearward, at 64% on the rear wheels as compared to the
>Cobra's 55% rear.

>The F2 BRM set up this way is lighter and more powerful than the Cobra;
>our car has about 240 hp and weighs about 2400 lbs, while the BRM has
>about 275 hp and weighs 1837 lbs.  Also the BRM probably has
>significantly less drag, due to lower frontal area; the Cobra's street
>windshield is like a giant barn door.

>So, even though the Cobra's tires (shaved and heat cycled Kumho Victo
>Racer DOT-legal racing radials) are probably superior to the 1967 F2
>race tires, I would guess that this car is probably somewhat quicker in
>terms of overall lap times than the Cobra is in real life.  

>Even so, this should give you a fairly good idea of what it's like to
>drive the Cobra, especially if you substitute some nice robust American
>V8 engine sound for the F2 engine sound in GPL.  Compared to GPL's F1
>and F2 cars the way they are normally run, this setup will feel slow on
>acceleration, but believe me, in real life it feels anything but slow!

>Nate and I ran the Cobra at Lime Rock this past Friday, and we had a
>fantastic time.  The car feels and sounds absolutely awesome.  Brakes
>are good, handling is precise with very good balance.  Acceleration is,
>um, how can I say, very gratifying.  Afterwards, Nate said it is "the
>perfect car".

>Due to a road mishap on the way, we got to the track late and wound up
>in the slowest run groups, so most of our track time turned out to be
>"passing practice".  This can be very frustrating, because the club's
>rules require you to get a "point-by" from the driver being overtaken
>before you can pass, and sometimes the other drivers are not very good
>about watching their mirrors.  We both spent a lot of time following
>slower cars around.

>Still, there's something ego-gratifying about being the fastest car on
>the track, passing everything in sight.  Toward the end of the day, we
>found out that the optimum passing technique was to fill the slower
>car's mirrors, after approaching with a very high closing rate.  This
>got their attention and generally got a quick point-by.

>Nate is closing the gap on me, too.  My best time was a mid 1:09, and
>Nate's best lap was just a second slower.  I think I need to practice
>more!

>Alison





>>>> where can I download it ?
>>>> I keep clicking on the pictures but
>>>> the car simply did not download...

>>>Uhhh, I hope you do realise it's a real car?

>>Yeah that is unfortunate :)  Why can't Alison develop a Cobra for use
>>in GPL?

>Alison

>        --- In loving memory of Kathi Simpson ---


>http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com
>http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc/

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