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Pit stall order and other complaints

David G. Marti

Pit stall order and other complaints

by David G. Marti » Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:00:00

I recall seeing in the Papyrus NASCAR manual something to the effect that
pit stall order is chosen randomly.  This has never been true since I
started racing.  Does anyone know if I imagined it?

While I'm complaining I'll drop a few other complaints.

Curved pit rows need to be straitened.
Retaining walls do need to be removed from places they aren't supposed to be.
Daytona and Indianapolis tracks must be included in the track list.

My biggest complaint has to be with the way cars are chosen to be in a race.
If you want to race against 7 other drivers, you always get the same
seven drivers.  What's wrong with coming up with a simple algorithm to
chose seven drivers.  Actually, I think that I should be subject to NOT
qualifying.  Use the rules about provisionals.  In single race situation,
it is not terribly important.  But, in the championship series, it would
be more realistic if you don't qualify for a race or two.

Does anyone else feel the same way.  I'd like to know.

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David A. Byerm

Pit stall order and other complaints

by David A. Byerm » Sun, 02 Jul 1995 04:00:00


: I recall seeing in the Papyrus NASCAR manual something to the effect that
: pit stall order is chosen randomly.  This has never been true since I
: started racing.  Does anyone know if I imagined it?

I thought it was just me!  Every single race I've run, I get the first
pit stall.  Is this a bug in the game?  And if so, why wasn't it fixed in
v.1.2?

--
David A. Byerman          
Independent Management Consultant
Specializing in Transportation and Environmental Policy Issues

Todd Norr

Pit stall order and other complaints

by Todd Norr » Mon, 03 Jul 1995 04:00:00


Byerman) writes:


>: I recall seeing in the Papyrus NASCAR manual something to the effect
that
>: pit stall order is chosen randomly.  This has never been true since

I

You ALWAYS pit on the last stall on the frontstretch...as Papyrus
doesn't allow a "pit preview" on race start, this seems to make
sense...even though the manual says otherwise.

From a "***" standpoint, novices would probably be completely
confused looking for pits if they were qualifying-assigned, especially
on tracks that pit front/back.

Todd
(this space for rent....hehe)

JohnOnei

Pit stall order and other complaints

by JohnOnei » Mon, 03 Jul 1995 04:00:00


It is not a bug. The program will give you the first stall everytime.

JohnOnei

Pit stall order and other complaints

by JohnOnei » Mon, 03 Jul 1995 04:00:00


That says it all. Imagine tyring to find your hole in the pit if you were
a new player and were using VGA mode...

Earl

Pit stall order and other complaints

by Earl » Tue, 04 Jul 1995 04:00:00


says...


>: I recall seeing in the Papyrus NASCAR manual something to the effect that
>: pit stall order is chosen randomly.  This has never been true since I
>: started racing.  Does anyone know if I imagined it?

>I thought it was just me!  Every single race I've run, I get the first
>pit stall.  Is this a bug in the game?  And if so, why wasn't it fixed in
>v.1.2?

Papyrus says they could not figure out how to do random pit stalls (!?), so
it was deliberately left out, even though they did not correct the manual
accordingly.

Earl

imcil..

Pit stall order and other complaints

by imcil.. » Wed, 05 Jul 1995 04:00:00


> Papyrus says they could not figure out how to do random pit stalls (!?), so
> it was deliberately left out, even though they did not correct the manual
> accordingly.

> Earl

The problem Payrus had, as far as I have heard, was not with selecting random
pit stalls (that's fairly simple to program), but with programming the AI so
that they wouldn't come crashing into you in pit stalls other than the first
one.  With the first stall, you only have to worry about a car pitting in front
of you; in any other position, you have to worry about cars in front and behind.

Ian McIlroy
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

David G. Marti

Pit stall order and other complaints

by David G. Marti » Thu, 06 Jul 1995 04:00:00

I admit that there is a good argument for leaving the pit assignments
alone, but this is a simulator.  There should be at least the option to
allow pit assignments based on qualifying place.  Also the reigning
Points Champion should get his/her choice of pit stall.

David G. Martin        BBB  EEE EEE N  N   CC   OO  U  U N  N TTT RRR  Y Y
354 Burnette-Womack    B  B E   E   NN N  C  C O  O U  U NN N  T  R  R Y Y
CB# 7075 UNC-CH        BBB  EEE EEE N NN  C    O  O U  U N NN  T  RRR   Y
Chapel Hill            B  B E   E   N  N  C  C O  O U  U N  N  T  R R   Y
       NC 27599-7075   B  B E   E   N  N  C  C O  O U  U N  N  T  R  R  Y
919-966-5203           BBB  EEE EEE N  N   CC   OO   UU  N  N  T  R  R  Y


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