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Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

mach

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by mach » Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:25:13

As some of you may recall, I've been using Windows 95 for quite a while.
Well, yesterday I finally got enough time to try and upate to Windows 98SE.
But only today did I finsih the update (had to do it like three times,
since some problems occurred the first times - hardware related, mostly,
as inadvertedly some cards had been mispositioned on the motherboard while
I was manipulating the HDD and some connectors).

So, after the upgrade, I also installed DirectX 8.1 (how else could I give
GTR 2002 a try, otherwise?). Well, it seems the video drivers were modified
in some way within Windows, since when I started F1 2001 I had to setup
the video config again... The JGTC mod didn't give me much problem, after
running it, I also had to set the graphics up again and then it worked fine.
The problem were the ALMS and FIA GT mods; they kept loading the video setup
utility every time I attempted to run them, and then going into F1 2001.
In order to solve that, I had to manually edit the config files and copy
the line "VIDEOGUID=(bunch of codes follow)" from the updated config.ini file.
That had happened to me earlier whenever I updated drivers for the video card
too...

GPL gave me no problems whatsoever (well, I still can't drive the cars properly,
but that's a different ind of probleem). For GP3 I just recalibrated the video
again, just in case... The worst one was NFS:PU, it would freeze after the
"Loading" screen appeared, finally after several hours I found out I had to
disable TwinView on my GeForce2's properies. (Either that or change vsync to
"always on", which caused the menus to become really unstable)

And I finally managed to get a look at IL-2! Awesome. Back the, I signed as
a beta-tester and received the disk, but could never get it to work (after
clicking on the shortcut, there would be some disk activity for a brief instant,
and then nothing). Now i's working just fine.

And finally, as someone else had explained, I installed the F1 2002 WIP demo,
followed by the no-CD patch, followed by GTR 2002, followed by the 1.1 AI patch,
followed by the 1.2 patch. Wow! It really is impressive. Too bad my driving
hasn't improved much yet...

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\_________D /-/---_----'      Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
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JS

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by JS » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 02:24:45



98SE.

Oh, wauhh so you finally got  win98 !!
Where do you live Afghanistan ??  8-)))

mach

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by mach » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:03:37




>> As some of you may recall, I've been using Windows 95 for quite a while.
>> Well, yesterday I finally got enough time to try and upate to Windows
>98SE.

>Oh, wauhh so you finally got  win98 !!
>Where do you live Afghanistan ??  8-)))

It's not a matter of where I live, it's about what suits my needs. Up to
recently, I didn't need anything that wasn't possible with Windows 95.
Unlike others, I don't fall for marketing schemes.

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__________   ____---____       Marco Antonio  Checa  Funcke
\_________D /-/---_----'      Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
       _H__/_/                      http://machf.tripod.com
      '-_____|(    

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Mitch_

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Mitch_ » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:13:28

Its not a marketing scheme when someone improves upon something and sells it
as such.   Just because it's an MS product people feel differently.  I for
one am glad the improvements continue.  If we all had your attitude where
the fuk would we be?  Oh yea, the stone age...
Jason Moy

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Jason Moy » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:06:11

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:18:14 +0100, Uwe hoover Schuerkamp


>Thank god the penguins are closing in on Peru from the south,
>day by day.

Yeah, my linux machines run GPL and N2003 like a dream...

Microsoft has imho done exactly 3 things right in their entire
history.  Internet Explorer, Xbox, and Windows XP.  No I'm not going
to be building a web or mail cluster out of XP machines any time in
the near future, but for an entertainment-oriented OS you can't beat
it right now.

Jason

Dave Henri

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Dave Henri » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:29:44



   Sure it MAY be an improvement, but unless your needs are met by the
improvement, it's just extra money thrown at M$.  Hey  leave Marco
alone...I like the way he thinks...lol!
Think about it...ME, win2k, XP,  how much money is that for something that,
for all intents and purposes, is supposed to hide in the background?
It may be a little faster, more stable...and such...but you can buy ALOT
more speed by taking that OS upgrade money and buying new cpu's or
vidcards.
dave henrie

Mitch_

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Mitch_ » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:43:38

I don't know where you buy your hardware Dave but I sure can't get very much
hardware for a sawbuck nowadays.  And what good is said hardware if you
spend half your life at the BSOD?  Hell I spent nearly $700 in videocards
this year alone...  In fact Ive spent about 10 times as much on videocards
as OS's and Ive bought every single OS MS has ever released back to dos3x.
For that matter I bought OS/2 also.  Now that was a serious waste of cash.

Honestly XP was the single best computer related purchase Ive made in nearly
20 years of buying comps and acc.   The native hardware support alone is
worth a $100.  The real geeks don't like it cause it works too good :)  What
fun is that hehe..  I keep a few machines around just for
Mandrake/2000pro/win98 so I have something to***around with it when Im
bored :)

Eventually most of you will upgrade to XP and when you do I doubt very much
you'll come back here with your tail between your legs and fess up how much
you like it :)
Its about like Jesse Jackson heaping praise on George Bush.  Just aint gonna
happen..

Mitch

improvement, but unless your needs are met by the

Uncle Feste

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:43:39


> Eventually most of you will upgrade to XP and when you do I doubt very much
> you'll come back here with your tail between your legs and fess up how much
> you like it :)
> Its about like Jesse Jackson heaping praise on George Bush.  Just aint gonna
> happen..

Dave's just a late aquirer.  Took him forever to drop the Voodoo &
become an "Nvidiot" too.  He'll see the light one day.  After the rest
of the world has already upgraded twice since.  :-)

--

Fester

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

alex

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by alex » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:25:37





>> Its not a marketing scheme when someone improves upon something and
>> sells it as such.   Just because it's an MS product people feel
>> differently.
>> I for one am glad the improvements continue.  If we all
>> had your attitude where the fuk would we be?  Oh yea, the stone age...

>    Sure it MAY be an improvement, but unless your needs are met by the
> improvement, it's just extra money thrown at M$.  Hey  leave Marco
> alone...I like the way he thinks...lol!
> Think about it...ME, win2k, XP,  how much money is that for something
> that, for all intents and purposes, is supposed to hide in the
> background? It may be a little faster, more stable...and such...but you

faster? which one? win2k and XP are slower than '95-'98 family.
And if the performance loss in process and DLL handling at least
improves stability, the user interface becomes just amazingly slow
for nothing. From the point of view of software developer it's
really frustrating to see that the newer releases are actually
worse than older ones in many areas :(  It's even more frustrating
to see that MS is not the only company doing that :((

Alex.

Joachim Trens

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Joachim Trens » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:08:06

Bien dicho, Marco Antonio, eres listo :)

Estoy d'acuerdo contigo que no hace falta instalarse nada mas que 98 para
cas todo que quieres hacer con un ordenador en estes dias, y considerando
el precio del beb mas reciente de MS, el cargo que pone sobre el sistema y
las desventajas que tiene, creo tambin que es ms listo para el momento
quedarse con 9x.

Sigo usando ME desde dos mil, y me encuentro contento para todo. Unicamente
me pone un poco triste que visiblemente el soporte para estes sistemas
operativos desaparecer. Ya se nota como est empezando esto. Cas tengo la
impresin que es una cosa deseada y enforzada un poco por MS, porque con la
base instalada de las SO's 9x, no entiendo como hay empresas que publican
sus pilotos XP semanas antes de los para 9x, y algunos que ni siquiera
siguen creando pilotos para 9x.

Que tengas mucha suerte con tu nuevo SO! :)

Achim


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Jason Moy

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Jason Moy » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:19:12



>faster? which one? win2k and XP are slower than '95-'98 family.
>And if the performance loss in process and DLL handling at least
>improves stability, the user interface becomes just amazingly slow
>for nothing.

Er, that's why you disable all of the integrated web ***that XP
defaults with and disable the services that you have no need for.

My XP machine uses fewer resources, is more stable, and responds
faster to input than any version of Win9x.  The key is tuning your OS
to your needs.  I run one TSR (Sidewinder applet, which is needed to
use split-axis with my wheel), only the services that are required for
the OS to function, and have the GUI stripped down to near Win95a
levels.  Currently I'm running Agent, IE, and SecureCRT and have more
resources available than I did in Windows 95 or 98 on a clean boot
after a fresh install with all of the TSR's disabled on the same
machine.  Of course I'll have even more resources free when I add
another gig and a half of RAM to this machine (which wouldn't be true
in Win95/98).  Win98 is pretty sweet tho if you don't mind only being
able to reliably address 256mb of RAM.

Jason

Joachim Trens

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Joachim Trens » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:25:55

Only shows how poorly you had configured your Win98 ;-) <g,d&r>

Achim


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Jason Moy

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Jason Moy » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:51:44

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:25:55 +0100, "Joachim Trensz"


>Only shows how poorly you had configured your Win98 ;-) <g,d&r>

My Win98lite thank you very much. =p

Jason

Carl Ribbegaard

Semi-OT: I (finally!) updated my OS...

by Carl Ribbegaard » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:36:06

How bout the line of server products? Development products?
MS rules actually.

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