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Force-feedback in GPL

Jeppe Kus

Force-feedback in GPL

by Jeppe Kus » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00

Is it possible to get force-feedback in GPL?
If so, wich patches do i have to install and were can i get them?
I have the Gouillemot (or whatever) Ferrari whell.

Jeppe

Destro

Force-feedback in GPL

by Destro » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00

Yes GPL with patches has FF. Check their web site or a GPL fan site,
sorry I don't know of any off hand. Also, try Viper Racing, this game
has, IMHO, the best FF effect of any racing game to date.

> Is it possible to get force-feedback in GPL?
> If so, wich patches do i have to install and were can i get them?
> I have the Gouillemot (or whatever) Ferrari whell.

> Jeppe

Michael E. Carve

Force-feedback in GPL

by Michael E. Carve » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00


% Yes GPL with patches has FF. Check their web site or a GPL fan site,
% sorry I don't know of any off hand. Also, try Viper Racing, this game
% has, IMHO, the best FF effect of any racing game to date.

Next to GPL maybe <G>

For more detail check out Alison Hine's (aka Eagle Woman) Force Feedback
page for GPL:

http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/force.htm

You will need the 1.2 patch for GPL
http://www.papy.com/gpl/download.html

Then you will need to create or edit your core.ini file (make sure the
file name is core.ini -- double check via DOS dir -- run the file
command and then change to your GPL directory and issue the command "dir
core.*").

Add the following line under the heading "[ Joy ]"

allow_force_feedback = 1  

the following is from the 1.1 readme.txt file:

9. FORCE FEEDBACK SUPPORT
----------------------------

It is possible to enable force-feedback steering by adding the following
lines to core.ini:

[ Joy ]
allow_force_feedback = 1    ;

Additionally, there are (of course) some things to fiddle around with.
Three other lines can be added--these are the default values used if
these lines are missing:

force_feedback_latency = 0.085               ; in seconds
force_feedback_damping = 40.0                ; magic number
max_steering_torque = 225.0                  ; in Newton-inches

force_feedback_latency can be used to try to reduce the lag in force
buildup.  If you swerve back and forth at speed, you might notice that
the force does not seem to match what the car is doing--it is a little
out of phase.  The default value seems to work best with the Microsoft
wheel, other wheels may require some tweaking.  Generally, the lowest
number that works for you is probably best.  Try 0.0, then move it up if
the force seems out of phase.  If you set it too high, you will begin to
get unwanted spikes in the force levels.

force_feedback_damping can be used to counteract the unwanted spikes.
Guidelines for this number?  Try anything from 0.0 to several hundred,
maybe, but this also causes jumpiness if raised to excess.

max_steering_torque is the level of torque actually computed in the game
that will give the maximum force level on the device.  Setting this to a
higher number will reduce the force you feel.  Setting this lower will
increase the forces you feel, but will tend to clamp them, so you will
not feel the car loading up on a hill, etc.  Sorry about the bogus units
(although they are at least a unit of torque).

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Joe Marque

Force-feedback in GPL

by Joe Marque » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00

www.papy.com has version 1.2.  Read the readme for changing the ini file in
order to turn on FF.

Joe


> Yes GPL with patches has FF. Check their web site or a GPL fan site,
> sorry I don't know of any off hand. Also, try Viper Racing, this game
> has, IMHO, the best FF effect of any racing game to date.


> > Is it possible to get force-feedback in GPL?
> > If so, wich patches do i have to install and were can i get them?
> > I have the Gouillemot (or whatever) Ferrari whell.

> > Jeppe

Simon Brow

Force-feedback in GPL

by Simon Brow » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00

First you will need the 1.2 patch (in theory you shouldn't need the 1.1
patch) for your country from www.papy.com, then you need to go into your
main gpl folder ( usually c:\sierra\gpl ) and there will be a file there
called "core.ini.sample" which needs renaming to just "core.ini".  The
easiest way to do this is to open a DOS prompt and use the DOS command
"rename".  Another way to rename the file is to select it, then wait a few
seconds, and then left click once on the name of the file (just under the
icon) and then windows will let you edit it.  Or you can right click on the
file and see if "rename" is in the pop-down list.
Next double-click on the file to edit it ( if windows asks you what to edit
it with then choose Notepad from the list ) and scroll down and change the
value "allow_force_feedback = 0", to 1.  If it doesn't work then you've
failed to rename the file properly.  You would be amazed how many people get
this bit wrong.

Also, just as a footnote, the 1.2 patch for the UK doesn't install correctly
without the 1.1 patch because the 1.2 patch fails to overwrite some
copy-protected files.  That's just something to be aware of if you have
trouble applying the 1.2 patch.

Jeppe Kus

Force-feedback in GPL

by Jeppe Kus » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00

Thank you :-)
I'll try it

Jeppe

David Butte

Force-feedback in GPL

by David Butte » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00


<snip>

Are you sure about this? I had a HD crash, had to reinstall everything
from scratch, and installed 1.0 off the CD, and then 1.2 from Papy.
Skipped 1.1 completely, and everything's fine.

--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Simon Brow

Force-feedback in GPL

by Simon Brow » Sun, 14 May 2000 04:00:00

Well, I dunno, maybe it only happens to me :)
I re-installed GPL last week, ran the UK 1.2 patch and it stopped on 80%
saying it couldn't overwrite some files.  I checked the files that the patch
was trying to replace and they were write-protected ( i.e. they had
read-only ticked ).  And that was a completely fresh GPL install too, not an
overwrite.
It's a mystery...anyway installing 1.1 first fixed the problem.

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