Hi, Is there an archive of this newsgroup anywhere?
Chris
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>> Hi, Is there an archive of this newsgroup anywhere?
>> Chris
> Yes, I was digging around posts to RAS from 1997 the other day.
> Some really interesting stuff and some that some people in here
> might not want to be reminded of today;)
> Chris
Slot
Oh, here's a copy of an old post. Makes good reading:
> [Editor: While the original charter states that "Arcade racing
> simulators" should not be discussed in r.a.s., the general consesus is
> that they are welcome to participate in r.a.s.]
> This message will be posted every 7 days to rec.autos.simulators. It
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> 1.2 Practicalities
> o Is the subject line both descriptive and accurate ?
> o People can select the articles which most appeal to them if you
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> topic you are posting about. Since many different simulators are
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> CPR CART Precision Racing
> DD2 Destruction Derby 2
> F1RS F1 Racing Simulation
> GP1 Grand Prix 1 or World Circuit
> GP2 Grand Prix 2
> GPL Grand Prix Legends
> ICR1 Indycar Racing 1
> ICR2 IndyCar Racing 2
> MGPRS2 Monaco Grand Prix Racing Simulation 2
> MTM Monster Truck Madness
> N1 Nascar Racing 1
> N2 Nascar Racing 2
> N99 Nascar Racing 1999 edition
> NFS Need For Speed
> NFSSE Need For Speed Special Edition
> S1 Screamer 1
> S2 Screamer 2
> SCGT Sports Car GT
> SODA SODA (Short-Course Offroad Drivers Association)
> TOCA TOCA (Touring Car Contructors Association)
> Touring Car Championship
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> 2.1 Known FAQ's for Simulations discussed in rec.autos.simulators.
> o F1 Racing Simulation (F1RS) FAQ is available at:
> http://www.f1racingsim.com/faq.htm
> o Grand Prix I/World Circuit (GP1) FAQ is available at:
> http://www.grandprix1.com/tips/faq.shtml
> o Grand Prix II (GP2) FAQ's are available at:
> http://www.grandprix2.com/gp2faq.htm
> http://www.internet.dk/hjemmesider/petetoft/gp2faq.txt
> o Grand Prix Legends (GPL) FAQ is available at:
> General FAQ:
> http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/faq.htm
> Hardware FAQ:
> http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/faq-hw.htm
> On-Line FAQ:
> http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/faq-online.htm
> o IndyCar Racing II (ICR2) or CART Racing FAQ is available at:
> http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver/icr2faq.htm
> ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/icr2faq.txt
> o NASCAR Racing II (N2) FAQ is available at:
> http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/Features/N2FAQ.txt
> 2.2 Contacting Auto Simulator vendors.
> o Bethesda Softworks
> http://www.bethsoft.com
> o Codemasters
> http://www.codemasters.com
> o Electronic Arts
> http://www.ea.com
> o Europress
> http://www.europress.co.uk
> o Extreme Competition Controls
> http://www.ecci.net
> o K2 Interactive (Verbal Commander)
> http://www.k2i.com/
> o Microprose
> http://www.microprose.com
> o Microsoft
> http://www.microsoft.com/games/
> o Papyrus/Sierra On-Line
> http://www.sierra.com/
> o Psygnosis
> http://www.psygnosis.com/
> o Thomas Enterprises
> http://soli.inav.net/~thomas
> o ThrustMaster
> http://www.thrustmaster.com
> o Ubi Soft
> http://www.ubisoft.com
> o Virgin Interactive Entertainment
> http://www.vie.com
> o Virtual Vehicles from Interactive I/O
> http://www.interactiveio.com
> o Visiware
> http://www.visiware.com
Rick
O, Cassandra!, we art truly in thy debt.
--DK
Anyone have real numbers? I think it would be interesting to see who
posts the most, etc.
--David Cook
> Yep and thanks to Deja we will also be able to track down your machiavellian
> and naive thinking about your very funny prophecy for Y2k.
> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.WeRace.net
> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Yep and thanks to Deja we will also be able to track down your machiavellian
and naive thinking about your very funny prophecy for Y2k.
--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Some companies exist that sell archives of newsgroups on CD-Rom. I remember
quite a few back when I was searching for an archive on some newsgroup I
lurk on, but it was more expensive than what I wanted to pay for. Anybody
know of some that still exist today? With the phenomenal Usenet boost around
1998 I doubt many could continue to do such a thing.
Unfortunately, Deja only brings to you the possibility to send and view
Usenet past and present message. They don't do anything more. In fact,
they're completely changing their philosophy. If you go to Deja.com, you
will see that newsgroup research is now very small compared to everything
else they (try to) do. Another Internet community help transformed into
pure commercialism :(
--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Another Internet community help transformed into
Why do you have a reverse smiley face at the end there? Are against
commercialism? I bet you never paid Deja.com for anything, given your modus
operandi.
Don't ya just hate it when companies charge for internet services and racing
simulators?
Rick
No regrets, no embarrassment <---------- can't touch this.
Rick
RIck
"I'd rather have and not need it, than need it and not have it"
>O, Cassandra!, we art truly in thy debt.
>--DK
>> That was about the same time ymenard (our founder) self-elected himself
as
>> leader of RAS, IIRC.
>> Rick
Actually it's a smile but the smiley has two pinch <g>
Your the Derek Smart of rec.autos.simulators.
Im sure your a pro-capitalism person who would want sites like Yahoo.com to
drop their web directory in favor of having the Internet transformed into a
public place for commercialism. At least you'll be able to sell everything
that's in your bunker using the web.
--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
--DK
Chris
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