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Reason or Force

Mitch_

Reason or Force

by Mitch_ » Sat, 23 Jun 2007 08:26:42

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.
If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either
convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of
force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories,
without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly m***and civilized society, people exclusively interact through
persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and
the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as
paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason
and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or
employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a
100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old
retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old ***er, and a single gay guy
on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun
removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a
potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force
equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all
guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a
mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's
potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative
fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the
young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a
civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful
living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that
otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in
several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the
physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal
force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with
a ***y lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works
solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both
are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal
in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It
simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal
and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but
because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot
be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because
it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who
would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would
do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying
a gun is a civilized act.

anon

Reason or Force

by anon » Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:15:25

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.
If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either
convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of
force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories,
without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly m***and civilized society, people exclusively interact through
persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and
the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal
flatulence, as
paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a fart, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use
reason
and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or
employment of force. The fart is the only personal weapon that puts a
100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old
retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old ***er, and a single gay
guy
on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The fart
removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a
potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the fart as the source of bad force
equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if
all
farts were removed from society, because a fart makes it easier for a
mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's
potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative
fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the
young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a
civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful
living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the fart makes confrontations lethal that
otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in
several ways. Without farts involved, confrontations are won by the
physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute
lethal
force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with
a ***y lip at worst. The fact that the fart makes lethal force easier
works
solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both
are armed, the field is level. The fart is the only weapon that's as lethal
in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It
simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal
and easily employable.

When I carry a fart, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but
because I'm looking to be left alone. The fart at my side means that I
cannot
be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because
it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who
would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would
do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why
carrying
a fart is a civilized act.

So eat beans at every meal, the more you eat the better youll feel!

cowoffun

Reason or Force

by cowoffun » Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:31:15

too long, didn't read
Bob Simpso

Reason or Force

by Bob Simpso » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 00:54:26



>  fight...fart...civilized .

After a three milli-second scan, I noticed these words near the
bottom.  I guess that sums it up.
Jeff Rei

Reason or Force

by Jeff Rei » Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:01:01

You left out the obvious, guilt, a specialty of Jewish mothers
"That's OK son, I'll just read in the dark".

A taser would be a reasonable alternative to hand guns.


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