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IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

Chris Mille

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Chris Mille » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The full review is here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

The first paragraph of the review is rather funny:

"Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was
overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car
specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost
every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged
monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance
on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as
in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still
vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

I think that I'll stick with the reviews on Digital Sportspage.

Barry Posne

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Barry Posne » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> The full review is here:

> http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html

> The first paragraph of the review is rather funny:

> "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was
> overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car
> specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost
> every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged
> monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance
> on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
> word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as
> in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still
> vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated milk?

bp

Chris Mille

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Chris Mille » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Damn...  Screwed up the subject line.  ^_^;;  Don't know why I was
thinking of IGN.

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:04:08 -0700, Chris Miller


>The full review is here:

>http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html

>The first paragraph of the review is rather funny:

>"Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was
>overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car
>specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost
>every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged
>monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance
>on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
>word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as
>in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still
>vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

>I think that I'll stick with the reviews on Digital Sportspage.

Chris Mille

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Chris Mille » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00




>> The full review is here:

>> http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html
>> monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance
>> on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
>> word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as

>Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated milk?

I hope that the review isn't typical of Daily Radar's Sega wing.  I've
gotten used to nonsense from the Sony side of things, so I don't pay
it too much attention.

<sigh>  It would have been better if I'd gotten the subject line
correct on my first try.  ^_^;;  IGN's reviewed the UK release, but
not the US release, yet.

David Kar

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by David Kar » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

And Frankey-boy O-Conner doesn't take too well to corrections of his errors,
either.

--DK



> > The full review is here:

> > http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_663.html

> > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny:

> > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport was
> > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car
> > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost
> > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged
> > monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous reliance
> > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
> > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit. Now, as
> > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They still
> > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

> Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated milk?

> bp

chrischa..

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by chrischa.. » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00

Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of
Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated
and homogenized are actually two different words--

homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like
milk where the fat and skim are blended together.

homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." It's a common
term in racing, which means that all partipating cars or bikes or
whatever have to be "homologated," or meet similar, preset conditions.
So you can't, say, put six wheels on your car. Sega GT has the word in
it's title in Japan.

The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically
the same now.

There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it
wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a
discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both
teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black
and gold livery, so he got confused) on a F1 usenet group someplace.
(That's what I was looking for when I found this thread.)

Chris Charla
Imagine Media
www.dailyradar.com

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Toni Lassi

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Toni Lassi » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00


>There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it
>wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a

And it even won the... oh *** it.
Glen

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Glen » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00


>>There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it
>>wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a

>And it even won the... oh *** it.

Homologously, even ;)

Glenys
"And they just want to shut it down.  
Well, that's no better than book burning."

Barry Posne

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Barry Posne » Mon, 01 May 2000 04:00:00


> Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of
> Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated
> and homogenized are actually two different words--

We all know that, dimbulb. That was the point of the jibe. Some of us
racing fans actually know what homlogation means.

More correctly, it means "of uniform structure or composition". But
thanks for telling us what we already knew.

And it usually applies to racing series where the racecars are derived
from road cars. To be homologated, the race car had to be the same as
the street car. Thus, the usual practice was for a manufacturer to make
as many copies of the race as was necessary in order to qualify for
whatever the sanctioning body considered to be "production".

The generalized, root meaning of homologated means "all under the same
rules", but it has a broadly accepted, albeit slightly narrower, meaning
in motor racing.

Do you know what "GTO", as in Ferrari 250 GTO, means?

They are (to the layman, but not the enthusiast) homogeneous - all the
same. And they are within a given set of rules, if you wish to be
pedantic about the usage of homologated. However, F1 is not a
homologated series in the sense with which that word is usually used in
racing. The clown confused the usage of homologated and homogenized, and
that was the root of the ridicule.

The six-wheel car (the Tyrrell P34) did not win "nearly every race" as
the previous author stated, but one (the Swedish GP in 1976). And it was
not supercharged. And it did not have JPS livery, but French blue Elf
livery.

If you're gonna post a correction, please get the facts right first.
With the internet at our command, these facts are easy to find out.

bp

amos-opu

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by amos-opu » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00

Erm..the Tyrrell P34 sponsored by PLAYERS......wonder what ELF would have to
say about that......

Sudesh


> > > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny:

> > > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport
> was
> > > > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car
> > > > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost
> > > > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged
> > > > monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous
> reliance
> > > > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
> > > > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit.
> Now, as
> > > > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They
> still
> > > > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

> > > Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated
> milk?

> > > bp

> Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of
> Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated
> and homogenized are actually two different words--

> homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like
> milk where the fat and skim are blended together.

> homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." It's a common
> term in racing, which means that all partipating cars or bikes or
> whatever have to be "homologated," or meet similar, preset conditions.
> So you can't, say, put six wheels on your car. Sega GT has the word in
> it's title in Japan.

> The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically
> the same now.

> There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it
> wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a
> discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both
> teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black
> and gold livery, so he got confused) on a F1 usenet group someplace.
> (That's what I was looking for when I found this thread.)

> Chris Charla
> Imagine Media
> www.dailyradar.com

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Fredrik B. Knutse

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Fredrik B. Knutse » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00

 (schipps, schnapps)

Uh, lemme guess....same as in Pontiac? :-D
 Doc

--
Doc Fredrik B.Knutsen

Cheek Racing Cars
www.cheekracing.com

Fredrik B. Knutse

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by Fredrik B. Knutse » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00


> Erm..the Tyrrell P34 sponsored by PLAYERS......wonder what ELF would have to
> say about that......

Bet you Roger Hill never told he'd put a supercharged engine in it, either :-)
  Doc

> Sudesh


> > > > > The first paragraph of the review is rather funny:

> > > > > "Formula One racing hasn't been quite as much fun since the sport
> > was
> > > > > overhauled in the early '80s. Before it was regulated, the car
> > > > > specifications were all over the place. One year, Lotus won almost
> > > > > every event with a totally insane six-wheeled, supercharged
> > > > > monstrosity.  Seriously. And it was that kind of outrageous
> > reliance
> > > > > on weirdo technology that caused the homologation (we can use that
> > > > > word with impunity now, thanks to Sega GT) of the F1 circuit.
> > Now, as
> > > > > in NASCAR, the F1 autos have to follow set requirements. They
> > still
> > > > > vary massively, and more importantly, so do the tracks."

> > > > Yikes! This is bizarre. I wonder if the author drinks homologated
> > milk?

> > > > bp

> > Look, I don't want to nit-pick, but I think you guys are marking fun of
> > Frank for saying homologated instead of homogenized. But homologated
> > and homogenized are actually two different words--

> > homogonized means all mixed together into a uniformed mixture -- like
> > milk where the fat and skim are blended together.

> > homologated means basically "sanctioned" or "allowed." It's a common
> > term in racing, which means that all partipating cars or bikes or
> > whatever have to be "homologated," or meet similar, preset conditions.
> > So you can't, say, put six wheels on your car. Sega GT has the word in
> > it's title in Japan.

> > The point Frank was trying to make was that the cars are all basically
> > the same now.

> > There was a mistake in the first paragraph of the review, however -- it
> > wasn't Lotus who ran the six-wheeled car, it was Tyrell. You can find a
> > discussion of that error (and Frank's apology and explanation -- both
> > teams were sponsored by John Players that year and had the same black
> > and gold livery, so he got confused) on a F1 usenet group someplace.
> > (That's what I was looking for when I found this thread.)

> > Chris Charla
> > Imagine Media
> > www.dailyradar.com

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.

--
Doc Fredrik B.Knutsen

Cheek Racing Cars
www.cheekracing.com

David Ewin

IGN's F1 World Grand Prix (US) review

by David Ewin » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00


> Do you know what "GTO", as in Ferrari 250 GTO, means?

"Girls Together Outrageously".

Dave Ewing

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