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Best F1 Sim???

Kevin Gavit

Best F1 Sim???

by Kevin Gavit » Tue, 29 May 2001 07:16:40


Hey Dave, I remember you taking me to task about two years ago for
suggesting that the EA ought to have the SBK team help out ISI with their
graphics engine.    :)

KFG

Dave Henri

Best F1 Sim???

by Dave Henri » Tue, 29 May 2001 07:30:50


taking me to task about two years ago for
  Something to the effect, that although EA produces both titles, they are
NOT made by the same programmers so it would be almost impossible for such a
feat to occur.???
  I still feel that was a fairly accurate statement.  But I just wonder how
the ISI guys can junk three years of code and get it out the door in less
than a year.
  Of course as much CROW as I've been eating lately, maybe I'd better refill
the salt shaker..
dave henrie

John Bod

Best F1 Sim???

by John Bod » Tue, 29 May 2001 07:56:44

At the risk of sounding redundant (I've posted this before, but it
addresses your question):

I have GP3, Ubisoft's F1 Racing Championship (F1RC), and EA's F1
Championship Season 2000 (F1CS2K), and I would wholeheartedly
recommend F1CS2K as the closest thing to GPL in terms of modern F1
sims.  I have a Duron 750 with a GeForce256 card, and F1CS2K runs
fine, so use this as a benchmark for your possible performance.  Also,
check out the demo and see for yourself:

http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml

There is a TON of third-party support for F1CS2K, including a CART
conversion and a Trans Am conversion, and also an advanced physics
patch that I put together that really makes the physics come alive
(you can find that at the Blackhole Motorsports site, and I believe it
works fine with the demo).

The High Gear forum has a VERY active F1CS2K community, and there are
lots of helpful people there:

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~hg/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=23

There is also an F1CS2K Rank site, much like the GPLRank:

http://f1cs2krank.dhs.org/

And also an active offline competition as well:

http://hem.spray.se/redeby/f1/offline.htm

Of the three current modern F1 sims, F1CS2K wins hands-down as far as
I'm concerned.

Enjoy!

-- JB

On Sun, 27 May 2001 09:14:54 -0500, "Tim Deatherage"


>Hey F1 racers,

>Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get  Speedvision and I
>have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially the
>Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!!

>Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ???

>F1 RC ?
>GP3??
>Others???

>Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!!

>As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Tim A. Deatherage

>www.timdeatheragecpa.com

John Bod

Best F1 Sim???

by John Bod » Tue, 29 May 2001 07:59:11




>taking me to task about two years ago for
>> suggesting that the EA ought to have the SBK team help out ISI with their
>> graphics engine.    :)

>> KFG
>  Something to the effect, that although EA produces both titles, they are
>NOT made by the same programmers so it would be almost impossible for such a
>feat to occur.???
>  I still feel that was a fairly accurate statement.  But I just wonder how
>the ISI guys can junk three years of code and get it out the door in less
>than a year.

Because they've been working on F1 2001 since before F1 2000 was
released.  The F1CS2000 update was done by two or three guys at ISI,
so they didn't really commit too much of their resources to that --
the bulk of their effort has been put into developing the new F1 2001
engine.

That might be a good idea!

;-)

-- JB

TopLoade

Best F1 Sim???

by TopLoade » Tue, 29 May 2001 08:35:59

Yeah! Thom go Here:
http://www.pcgameplay.co.uk/Previews/f12001/f12001.htm

Cheers, David.
TopLoader.
Melbourne, Australia.

TopLoade

Best F1 Sim???

by TopLoade » Tue, 29 May 2001 08:40:56

Here we go again. ;)

Cheers, David.
TopLoader.
Melbourne, Australia.


> Hey F1 racers,

> Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get  Speedvision and I
> have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially
the
> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!!

> Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ???

> F1 RC ?
> GP3??
> Others???

> Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!!

> As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Tim A. Deatherage

> www.timdeatheragecpa.com

ymenar

Best F1 Sim???

by ymenar » Tue, 29 May 2001 08:17:37


> But I just wonder how the ISI guys can junk three years of code and get it

out the door in less

Well, they did that at Papyrus.  They probably were working on it before the
other releases.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David G Fishe

Best F1 Sim???

by David G Fishe » Tue, 29 May 2001 08:51:21

Right now, the best of F1200CS, GP3, and F1RC is definitely F1RC. The best
graphics in any sim, and a superb physics model. A patch is to be released
soon (ignore the *** theorists here at r.a.s.).

GP3 has a lot going for it, but the graphics are dated, and the driving
model seems too forgiving compared to F12000 and F1RC.

I was one of the first here at r.a.s. to say F12000 was excellent. It does
many things well, but after F1RC, it doesn't hold up anymore. F12001 by EA
may be something special. In the meantime, F1RC is the way to go.

David G Fisher


> Hey F1 racers,

> Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get  Speedvision and I
> have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially
the
> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!!

> Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ???

> F1 RC ?
> GP3??
> Others???

> Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!!

> As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Tim A. Deatherage

> www.timdeatheragecpa.com

ymenar

Best F1 Sim???

by ymenar » Tue, 29 May 2001 10:00:00


Oh hihihih I always am in the need for humour ;-)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Thom j

Best F1 Sim???

by Thom j » Tue, 29 May 2001 13:47:00

Wow!! Now this looks like the stuff that SBK was made of &
if they can get all running like a real F1 EA will have a winner!
Thanx for the info TopLoader!! Cheers Thom_j.

| Yeah! Thom go Here:
| http://www.pcgameplay.co.uk/Previews/f12001/f12001.htm

Kevin Gavit

Best F1 Sim???

by Kevin Gavit » Tue, 29 May 2001 13:47:11


> Yeah! Thom go Here:
> http://www.pcgameplay.co.uk/Previews/f12001/f12001.htm

> Cheers, David.
> TopLoader.
> Melbourne, Australia.


> > Doesnt EA Sports have a newer F12001 coming out after the E3 Expo?

Now THAT looks nice! ISI has always been held back by the graphics engine
that they inherited with the SCGT project. It was, and is, horrible.

I havn't bought a modern F1 sim since MGPRS. This one looks like it might be
worth my money.

KFG

Thom j

Best F1 Sim???

by Thom j » Tue, 29 May 2001 13:56:34

Damn Fran?ois, whats wrong with you?? Its 1000% true F1RC2.. hahaha

| > "David G Fisher" tried to write:
| > A patch is to be released soon

| Oh hihihih I always am in the need for humour ;-)
| --
| -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
| -- May the Downforce be with you...
| -- http://www.ymenard.com/
| -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
| Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Thom j

Best F1 Sim???

by Thom j » Tue, 29 May 2001 14:07:16

Ditto Kevin and more importantly!! 2 Tumbs & Big Toes Up!!! :o)

| Now THAT looks nice! ISI has always been held back by the graphics engine
| that they inherited with the SCGT project. It was, and is, horrible.
|
| I havn't bought a modern F1 sim since MGPRS. This one looks like it might
be
| worth my money.
| KFG

Greg Cisk

Best F1 Sim???

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 29 May 2001 16:25:27

F12000 Championship Season is the one. Period.

--



> Hey F1 racers,

> Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get  Speedvision and I
> have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially
the
> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!!

> Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ???

> F1 RC ?
> GP3??
> Others???

> Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!!

> As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Tim A. Deatherage

> www.timdeatheragecpa.com

Kevin Gavit

Best F1 Sim???

by Kevin Gavit » Wed, 30 May 2001 01:53:24


Ah, but can you count to 21 without taking your clothes off?  : )

KFG