I won't be able to trail-brake well for two reasons. One, I'm a right-foot
braker. Two, I don't have a split-axis pedal set.(yet)
If you SAY so... <g>
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Andre
> >Interesting - you're actually a lot further off the pace at Zandvoort
> >than you are at Monza, so you may find you learn more there.
> I *definitely* believe I'm slower(relatively) at Zandy. I can't handle that
> track at ALL. I also haven't done as many laps there as at Monza. I can't
> handle the 'roller coaster' nature of the track. I can't accelerate, brake, OR
> turn while going over those hills.... :-)
> >I can do 1:28s at Zandy, and I've raced against some people doing
> >consistent 1:24s!
> >To do well at Zandvoort you really need to learn how to use
> >trail-braking to get consistent oversteer into the corners - almost like
> >rally-driving. The key for me was to transition very smoothly from
> >throttle to brake and vice-versa (ie. not to stamp right on the brakes)
> I won't be able to trail-brake well for two reasons. One, I'm a right-foot
> braker.
You're right - there is no way you can handle Zandvoort using right-foot
braking, so it's a beautiful example of why it's a good idea to brake
with your left foot.
I guess split axis will help as well - the smooth transition from brake
to throttle and vice-versa is essential.
Having said that, Wolfie uses a joystick (ie. no split axis) and he's
pretty quick there!
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Just as Andre and Neil told you. Buy a split axis pedal NOW (or modify your
current one) and never use that right foot for breaking again. You don't
even need to trailbrake, since doing it right is quite difficult and
requires a lot of training (I don't think my feeble attempts deserve the
name 'trailbraking'). But you must get a smooth transition between brake and
gas at the entry of a corner, i.e. you go on the gas while lifting off the
throttle (That's what split axis is for). If you don't do that you will have
a short moment without gas or brake just at the moment you turn in. The
engine will brake your rear wheels and you spin unless you are slow enough
(which is not desirable :-))
Peter
Vienna, Austria
Not the most realistic way to drive though, so I'll never drive that
way.
Andre
Hmmm, I believe you're wrong. Of course, Wolfgang can defend his own,
but I believe he doesn't read RAS. Wolf use a stick only, and he use
the chase view only when hotlapping. When he is online, he'll drive
in car...
Remco
>Not the most realistic way to drive though, so I'll never drive that
>way.
>Andre
>>Having said that, Wolfie uses a joystick (ie. no split axis) and he's
>>pretty quick there!
I really thought that I read that he used pedals, but indeed I could
be wrong on this. At papy they do for sure.
And you're right about him using the arcade view (I still think that
word is better fitting than chase view) only when he's hotlapping.
It's too difficult to drive online without the mirrors.
Just to be clear, Wolfgang is one of the best, or THE best gpl driver.
I admire his driving style and have learned lots from his replays.
But personally I can't imagine why any serious GPL driver would use a
joystick and arcade view. GPL is so realistic, I think it should be
treated that way...
Andre
I did try that (When I first got GPL, I think). Utter disaster. No
coordination, and my left calf was hurting after very little time(no
flexibility). We'll see what happens if I talk myself into a TSW2...
I can deal with not being able to set a world record, but I'd at LEAST like to
finish in the top 12 against the full AI.
Eldred
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That's what makes GPL so challenging: There is always something to learn...
;-)
Peter
Vienna, Austria
>Peter
>Vienna, Austria
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> >> Geez, I just went through learning how to drive without auto-shift... :-)
> >That's what makes GPL so challenging: There is always something to learn...
> >;-)
> >Peter
> >Vienna, Austria
> I don't think I can do it. I'm a bowler, and even a musician, but I am NOT
> coordinated enough to left-foot brake. A man's gotta know his limitations...
> :-)
After all, you must use your left foot to walk on?
Or do you prefer hopping? ;-)
> Surely it's not that difficult?
> After all, you must use your left foot to walk on?
> Or do you prefer hopping? ;-)
Peter
Vienna, Austria
Peter
Vienna, Austria
> >> Geez, I just went through learning how to drive without auto-shift...
:-)
> >That's what makes GPL so challenging: There is always something to
learn...
> >;-)
> >Peter
> >Vienna, Austria
> I don't think I can do it. I'm a bowler, and even a musician, but I am
NOT
> coordinated enough to left-foot brake. A man's gotta know his
limitations...
> :-)
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>> Surely it's not that difficult?
>> After all, you must use your left foot to walk on?
>> Or do you prefer hopping? ;-)
>LOL :-)))))
>sorry, Eldred...
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