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by **Kasper Kowalsk** » Sun, 06 May 2001 10:29:37

to a degree... the marketing machine runs 24/7 in F1..... but ultimately, F1
is seen as the technological edge of motorsport.. indy doesn't come close in
that regard

KK

by **Ed Solhei** » Sun, 06 May 2001 11:08:39

> > I'd say about $200,000,000 and a whole lot of hype!

> to a degree... the marketing machine runs 24/7 in F1..... but ultimately,
F1
> is seen as the technological edge of motorsport.. indy doesn't come close
in
> that regard

Is that good or bad??

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by **JOHN METCO** » Sat, 05 May 2001 12:31:59

in short

CART => high speed and momentum conservation

F1 => agility and manuverability

> Cart cars are actually known as Championship Cars or Champ cars.
> They have MORE powerful turbocharged engines, more ground effects and
tunnel
> bottoms, wider stance(similiar to F1 before grooved tires)
> two different wing packages for road racing and ovals, They weigh more and
> the BIGGEST difference other than sheer cost are the brakes.
> F1 cars can stop in incredibly short distances. CART mandates a brake
rules
> package that, while still very good, is nowhere near the stopping power of
> F1 cars. F1 cars are generally considered faster in road racing
> due to the ability to stop and start quicker than the Champ cars but F1
cars
> don't have the overall top speed the Champ cars can produce.
> Cart is the racing group that USED to race the Indianapolis 500. But no
> longer, except for a couple of teams that buy IRL cars to run there.
> Champ cars are customer bought cars, not handcrafted from the ground up
like
> F1. But Champ cars can have some modifications, The engines are all
leased
> from Ford, Honda & Toyota(plus a few used Ilmor's)
> and cannot be modified by the teams. Lola & Reynard are the two big
chassis
> builders right now...others that have run well include Penske's own
> creations from a shop in England, Dan Gurney's Eagles(now defunct)
March's,
> & Swifts.
> For a look at the current Cart series try this site.
> http://www.cart.com/
> and this site for a look at some of the Champ car patches coming out.
> http://www.champweb.net/

> That ought to get you started.
> dave henrie

> > What exactly is the difference between a CART car and a F1 car? Wings,
> > tires, displacement? I don't follow CART but there has been a bit of
talk
> > around here lately about it and I'm curious.

> > Is CART cars old F1 tech, or does it develop on its own. Is a CART car
> > comparable to a F3000 car?

> > And where does an IRL car rate among this?

> > Thanks guys...

> > ********************************
> > Dave Pawlikowski

> > ********************************

by **JOHN METCO** » Sat, 05 May 2001 12:36:54

The word is latent heat.

CArbon has lower latent heat
it does NOT soak in heat and therefore
less "heated up"

Iron has higher latent heat and
therefore acts like a heatsink.
When heat accumulates, the iron
becomes soft and lose its ability
to stop.

the same reason why iron heat sink
are not used in computers.
they have a tendency to "keep the heat "
that they so quickly soak in.

.

by **Kasper Kowalsk** » Sun, 06 May 2001 14:44:14

good for the technophiles... i mean.. at one point you couls havean F1 car
with active suspension, anti-lock brakes, traction control, carbon-fibre
everything... etc etc.. the rules have tightened somwhat, but the high-tech
side of things is still very prominent, look at how much aero work is done
in F1?

on the other hand, it's bad because it inevitably turns into a case of the
haves and have-nots with significant performance differences between
teams... though i can't help but wonder if not for all the pace laps, would
we still see lots of lead-changes in CART

KK

by **George Lewi** » Sun, 06 May 2001 20:36:25

If it's a typical F1 race, 5 cars will be running in th end of 100
laps

On Thu, 3 May 2001 18:53:24 -0400, "Wayne Hutchison"

>Maybe, but would it still be doing that after 500 miles?

>Wayne Hutchison

>> Spoke to a guy who races FFord 1600s today who has a friend who works for
>> BAR as a model maker, they reckon an F1 car would lap a superspeedway 5 or
>> 10mph quicker than a cart car.

>> pez

>> > What exactly is the difference between a CART car and a F1 car? Wings,
>> > tires, displacement? I don't follow CART but there has been a bit of
>talk
>> > around here lately about it and I'm curious.

>> > Is CART cars old F1 tech, or does it develop on its own. Is a CART car
>> > comparable to a F3000 car?

>> > And where does an IRL car rate among this?

>> > Thanks guys...

>> > ********************************
>> > Dave Pawlikowski

>> > ********************************

rec.autos.simulators

Dif between CART car and F1 car?

Dif between CART car and F1 car?

Dif between CART car and F1 car?

Dif between CART car and F1 car?

Dif between CART car and F1 car?

Dif between CART car and F1 car?

Dif between CART car and F1 car?