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It isn't in N3 so get over it.

It might or might not be in NASCAR [not as usually posted, incorrectly, as
Nascar] Legends.

With as many problems as that GPL engine has caused, the in excess of 200,000
posts about it in this newsgroup alone...most of them questions, you would
think that it would be ready for the dumpster. And quite to the surprise to
some of you reading this, there are people that don't think GPL isn't the
greatest thing since the lightbulb.

Think about it...
Why would Sierra/Papyrus want to put the GPL engine in N3 when a lot of
computers [the ones that are out in the public consumption] won't run it?

NOBODY WOULD BUY IT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T RUN ON THEIR SYSTEM.

And that, my fellow sim racers, is the bottom line.
Sierra/Papyrus is in the money making business. That is why they are squeezing
the NASCAR sims for all that they are worth.

Do you think that Sierra/Papyrus gives a rat's ass about what some 23-53 year
old sim racer wants in his sim? Like Daytona [or even a "Florida International
Raceway" copy], a realistic body shape [like Denny's V1, V2 or V3], or even a
full field of racers like Ward Burton, Jimmy Spencer, et al,?

No.........

And if you do, you are mistaken, so quit whining about it.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ok there I am done whining about it :)
Norm

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I've heard that neither Need For Speed 5 or Microsoft Flight Simulator 6.0
won't be using the GPL engine either -- if that's the case, there's no way
they're ever going to MY hard-earned money for either of those titles! <G>

;-)

-- JB

It is _blindingly_ obvious that you do not know the guys who work at
Papyrus - I can assure you that you are about as wrong on that as it
is possible to be. These guys _really_ do care about those things.

Cheers!
John

Hint, companies that don't care what their buying public wants but
shoves down their throat whatever they feel like don't tend to stay in
business very long.   The 23-53 year old sim racers ARE the buyers for
these games!  How many 15 year olds can afford to jump out and blow
$50 any time they want on a game without mommy & daddies approval?

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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 02:18:03 -0500, "John Bodin"

If you like MSFT flight sim you might want to try a game called Fly!.
It is seriously nice compared to MSFT's games with better graphics and
realism. Heck, I like that it takes nearly 5 minutes to start up the
jet and turbo prop from scratch. Everything from kicking over the
master switch to controlling the feathering and synchro systems.  I
have MSFT's Flight sims, the Flight Unlimiteds (better graphics but
very limited area) and Fly (with just a bit lower graphics than Flight
Unlimited as it cuts off the distance).  Fly is by far the most
realistic and MSFT's sim is a distant third.  Give 'em a shot.

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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:19:32 -0400, "AndrewS"

  <ROFLMAO!!!!>

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If you think N3 is crap, donate your copy to someone who will enjoy it and
go back to GPL.

Many of us don't think it's crap, we understand that it doesn't have the GPL
engine, and we knew this before we bought it.

We enjoy Nascar racing, and currently N3 is the best in the business.

Personally, I like the vastly improved graphics and graphics performance,
the improved AI, and the slightly improved physics.  I think it was worth
every penny I paid for it.

GPL, while I do play it (opps.  Sorry, used the 'play' word.  It's the
worlds only true sim, not a game), I don't enjoy it as much because of the
_type_ of racing it is, not because it has a 'better' engine.

-Larry

re-plonk

--
"I heard if you play the NT-4.0-CD backwards, you get a satanic
message."
"That's nothing, if you play it forward, it installs NT-4.0"

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:57:04 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"

Not sure. It sounds like a few people are spending way to much time on
the can around here.

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I don't agree with some of your comments, about Sierra/Papy not caring
what simmers think. But otherwise I agree. We know it's not GPL. We
know some people don't like that. OK, point NOTED, enough already!

Some guys around here do more whining than the Buffalo Sabres when
they lose a hockey game. Sheesh.

Joe McGinn
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Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com/
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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:19:32 -0400, "AndrewS"

        I'm a HUGE NASCAR fan and even _I_ thought that was funny!!!!

...not that I agree with him....

Gunner

        That's right: just look at Microsoft. Lucky for US they're not
forcing on us we don't inherently want.  Lucky for us they're always
right.  Lucky for us, if we don't like Windows we can always use a
DIFFERENT O/S!!

Gunner

At the time no one else had anything to offer. Now there are including
Red Hat's Linux, etc.  As for MSFT always being right? Have you ever
noticed that almost any game will run well with MSFT Win 95/98 yet
their own games crash the computer constantly?  :)  Full featured bugs
included!

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