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GPL - should I throw it away

Wretched Jacka

GPL - should I throw it away

by Wretched Jacka » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

 I have spent a week practising at Watkins in a set-up Lotus and am
making consistent 01 minute 8 second laps

This is in the fastest car type (grand prix) but in a single race
(novice damage mode) many of the other cars are qualifying at 1 minute 7
and come the race I don't have a hope in hell. And if I spin out (god
forbid) then its no point even trying.

I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
***y race.

should I be in one of the slower cars to start with (I never bothered
with these) or should I bin this game and stick to TOCA2 and colin Mcrae
rally

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Torsten Kühne

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by Torsten Kühne » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Doin a 1:08 at the Glen after one week of practice is not bad, but: The guys
on the internet doin their 1:04 or 1:05, needed more than that time for sure

to learn that! i am racing with GPL for nearly one year regularly, and i am
still improving!
Maybe there is one thing you should also know: The AI-drivers in GPL use a
special tecnic to be always as fast as the human driver driving against
them.
As you told they to 1:07 while you doin 1:08. if you can improve to do 1:07,
they will do 1:06 and so on.
Its a special kind of AI papyrus developed for that.
Keep on practicing! And try the other cars. Lotus is one of the hardest to
control.
TK

Wretched Jackal schrieb:

>  I have spent a week practising at Watkins in a set-up Lotus and am
> making consistent 01 minute 8 second laps

> This is in the fastest car type (grand prix) but in a single race
> (novice damage mode) many of the other cars are qualifying at 1 minute 7
> and come the race I don't have a hope in hell. And if I spin out (god
> forbid) then its no point even trying.

> I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
> better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
> hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
> ***y race.

> should I be in one of the slower cars to start with (I never bothered
> with these) or should I bin this game and stick to TOCA2 and colin Mcrae
> rally

> --
> Rich "The Jackal"
> Senior digital animator

> London UK

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MiXe

GPL - should I throw it away

by MiXe » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

one 'o' eights after 1 week of practise is really good....
After my first week I was doing 1:10's or something like
that. Keep practising and you will be in the 1'06's before
you know. You have the talent to do so... I just know it :)

Download some hotlaps from the internet and watch which
lines the fast guys are driving, it helps you alot.

1:06's are good enough to beat the AI en win races on VROC
those 1:03's en 4's... well, don't think about these... they
are out of reach for most of us.

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> I have spent a week practising at Watkins in a set-up Lotus and am
>making consistent 01 minute 8 second laps

>This is in the fastest car type (grand prix) but in a single race
>(novice damage mode) many of the other cars are qualifying at 1 minute 7
>and come the race I don't have a hope in hell. And if I spin out (god
>forbid) then its no point even trying.

>I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
>better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
>hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
>***y race.

>should I be in one of the slower cars to start with (I never bothered
>with these) or should I bin this game and stick to TOCA2 and colin Mcrae
>rally

>--
>Rich "The Jackal"
>Senior digital animator

>London UK

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Tony Rickar

GPL - should I throw it away

by Tony Rickar » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00


>I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
>better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
>hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
>***y race.

If only 1:06 was the fastest then I would be a happy man!

The hotshots are in the 1:03s now!!!!!

2 reasons NOT to throw away GPL

1. The times WILL come down with practice. I find it impossible to put a
finger on what I have learnt to go faster, just experience & practice gives
you the feel for it. For me fast enough for close racing with the AI - but
not for the internet hotshots :(

2. The imminent release GPaL will allow you to tweak the AI to match your
speed at any track. This will allow for the close racing I am sure you are
looking for, especially as you can close up the grid as well. Watch out for
it!

Cheers

Tony

Greg Sutto

GPL - should I throw it away

by Greg Sutto » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Just a thought, what hardware are you using?  I was using a TNT and
getting around 36 fps, but it was inconsistent.  Switched it with
a banshee from my other machine and I had a lot less spins, and a
lot more fun.

Greg.


>  I have spent a week practising at Watkins in a set-up Lotus and am
> making consistent 01 minute 8 second laps

> This is in the fastest car type (grand prix) but in a single race
> (novice damage mode) many of the other cars are qualifying at 1 minute 7
> and come the race I don't have a hope in hell. And if I spin out (god
> forbid) then its no point even trying.

> I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
> better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
> hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
> ***y race.

> should I be in one of the slower cars to start with (I never bothered
> with these) or should I bin this game and stick to TOCA2 and colin Mcrae
> rally

> --
> Rich "The Jackal"
> Senior digital animator

> London UK

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Mark

GPL - should I throw it away

by Mark » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00



It's not a 'pick up and race' type game.  It requires a lot of time and
effort but the rewards are worth it.  I've played for months and my best  was
a second at Monza - I was on a high for ages.  A good PC setup helps - I just
got my PIII450, V3K yesterday moving from a P200.  It's far easier to be
consistent now.

I have fun with CMR but can't get away with TOCA.  If you can't or aren't
willing to put in the time with GPL and your PC is decent, try a middle
grounder like SCGT - apply the advanced options download, though.  Some real
nice tracks like Road Atlanta and Laguna Seca in there, too.

Mark
Reading, UK

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David A. Ewin

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by David A. Ewin » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00



>>I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
>>better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
>>hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
>>***y race.
>2 reasons NOT to throw away GPL

A third reason not to throw away GPL -

who cares if you can't beat the AI?  The sheer pleasure of driving these
cars and the satisfaction of improving far outweighs any silly ego boost by
winning at a simple computer game.

Dave Ewing

Peter Prochazk

GPL - should I throw it away

by Peter Prochazk » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I have bought a new computer (PIII 450, V 3 3000) on Thursday, assembled it
and bought GPL on Friday, and on Saturday the spring of my T2 broke :(
Since I haven't resolved this problem yet, I can't tell you very much about
fast laps in GPL (still in the 'spinning phase').
But I'd have another question:
Are you able to play CMR with the V 3 3000 ?
If you are, PLEASE tell me, how !
CMR always sends me to desktop, when I try to play a stage.

Peter
Vienna, Austria





> > I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
> > better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
> > hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
> > ***y race.

> It's not a 'pick up and race' type game.  It requires a lot of time and
> effort but the rewards are worth it.  I've played for months and my best
was
> a second at Monza - I was on a high for ages.  A good PC setup helps - I
just
> got my PIII450, V3K yesterday moving from a P200.  It's far easier to be
> consistent now.

> > should I be in one of the slower cars to start with (I never bothered
> > with these) or should I bin this game and stick to TOCA2 and colin Mcrae
> > rally

> I have fun with CMR but can't get away with TOCA.  If you can't or aren't
> willing to put in the time with GPL and your PC is decent, try a middle
> grounder like SCGT - apply the advanced options download, though.  Some
real
> nice tracks like Road Atlanta and Laguna Seca in there, too.

> Mark
> Reading, UK

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Driver

GPL - should I throw it away

by Driver » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I agree, I've been playing GPL since it came out, and I still haven't got
under 1:10 at the glen.
But I still enjoy driving the cars. The sheer thrill of speed is worth
keeping it.

Jesse Blac

GPL - should I throw it away

by Jesse Blac » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

GPL adjusts the difficulty to how fast you are.  If you run really fast
laps, the AI will just get faster.  It provides for a lot of competition no
matter how fast you are.  Just work on being consistent and try to cut back
on spinning and the AI will adjust their speed to you and you can run with
them.

> I have spent a week practising at Watkins in a set-up Lotus and am
>making consistent 01 minute 8 second laps

>This is in the fastest car type (grand prix) but in a single race
>(novice damage mode) many of the other cars are qualifying at 1 minute 7
>and come the race I don't have a hope in hell. And if I spin out (god
>forbid) then its no point even trying.

>I know that this game is difficult but this is ridiculous. Even if I was
>better at Watkins (say 1minute 6 , which is around time for  the best
>hotlaps on the interenet)  it would still be almost impossible to win a
>***y race.

>should I be in one of the slower cars to start with (I never bothered
>with these) or should I bin this game and stick to TOCA2 and colin Mcrae
>rally

>--
>Rich "The Jackal"
>Senior digital animator

>London UK

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>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Piers C. Structure

GPL - should I throw it away

by Piers C. Structure » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00



I think that's a good time for a week.

It is very difficult to win. The AI are designed to adjust and give you
a challenge wether you've been at it for one week, months or who knows?
You can do something about it though.

Yes. I beleive this is fundamentally a good thing - gpl is alot about
racing and less about 'winning'.

If you can manage consistent 1:08 at watkins in the lotus after a week
then you should IMO stick at it. If you want to motivate yourself to
learn to race *consistently* without silly mistakes messing up the
averages, try some online racing.

--
Suck The Goat

PaiK

GPL - should I throw it away

by PaiK » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Same here with a V3 2000.

Regards
Javier Fernandez

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Neil Rain

GPL - should I throw it away

by Neil Rain » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00


> If you can manage consistent 1:08 at watkins in the lotus after a week
> then you should IMO stick at it. If you want to motivate yourself to
> learn to race *consistently* without silly mistakes messing up the
> averages, try some online racing.

Certainly if you can do 1:08 in one of the easier cars like the
Coventry, then you have a very good chance of winning online races (as
long as you're not up against the top drivers).

It's a lot less stressful driving the Coventry, and you're much more
likely to go through the race without spinning off.

There's something very satisfying about chasing someone for a few laps,
and seeing them spin off under pressure.  You don't always have to make
a passing move to gain a place!

Chri

GPL - should I throw it away

by Chri » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I have been playing GPL for a little over a week also, and thanks to the tips
in this thread I downloaded Alisons Ferrari setup and instantly knocked 4
seconds a lap off my times at Watkins. The best I have driven there so far is a
1.09.11, before that I only drove the Lotus and was getting consistent 1.12's.
I like training mode better than single race at this point, it's a blast just
trying to beat your record for each track. My question to those who have been
playing for awhile is what is it like to go from GPL to an older race game like
Grand Prix 2, is it even possible?? I haven't done it, but it seems like it
would be arcadish at this point.
Chris

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