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OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

Rudebo

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Rudebo » Sun, 02 Mar 2003 03:46:00

OK this weekend I'm finally going to build my own system.  My first question
(of many probably) is that I have a 80 gig HD.  I'm going to start out by
running WIN 98SE, I'll upgrade later. Any way, I take it I should run it as
FAT32, or is there a newer better File Allocation standard?

And do I really need to partition the HD? Or put an other way how much
benefit do you get by partitioning an 80 gig drive?

TIA

MadDAW

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by MadDAW » Sun, 02 Mar 2003 03:53:29

If you are gonna stick with 98se then FAT 32 is your only choice.

As far partitioning the hard drive goes you don't have to do it, but I
would.

First I'd make a FAT32 partion for Win98se, Then I'd leave a second partion
for NTFS and a newer OS like XP or Win2k. Then I would have a third partion
to save all the ***I download to. If you keep all your drivers, patches,
and extras on a separate partion its no big deal to back and redo your o/s
because you have all the stuff handy for a reinstall.

Of course its your system and you can do it anyway you please.

MadDAWG

Michael Basde

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Michael Basde » Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:11:27

But if you don't have a newer OS (like Win2k, NT or XP) a NTFS partition is
a waste of space since Win98 can see NTFS partitions.


Doug Elliso

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Doug Elliso » Sun, 02 Mar 2003 17:10:07


Partition in something like 40/40 or 50/30  - so that you have a large space
to store your 'stuff'

The other partition is for Windows and apps etc.

This way - when you come to reinstall windows ( at least every 6 months for
me - windows gets slower with age ) - you have all your stuff on the other
partition ready to copy back across and backed up

Doug

JSS-Ninj

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by JSS-Ninj » Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:16:11

You can download a utility so that Windows9X can read NTFS.  I don't
remember the name of it, but I ran it at work on a dual boot Win98 / Win2k
system that I had.   It worked well for me,


But if you don't have a newer OS (like Win2k, NT or XP) a NTFS partition is
a waste of space since Win98 can see NTFS partitions.


Dave Henri

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:25:26


    The biggest advantage to partioning is, at least with Fat32, you reduce
the size of individual clusters.  So a one word text file consumes the same
amount of hd space as a much larger file.  The smaller your partitions, the
smaller each cluster becomes.  
    The second advantage to partitons is when you defrag your hard drive.  
Do you know how LONG it takes to defrag an 80meg drive?  zzzzz zzzzzz
zzzzzzz
dave henrie

Mike Whit

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Mike Whit » Wed, 12 Mar 2003 03:10:29


Yes I do, or should I say, I will.... IF IT EVER FREAKIN GETS DONE   :)

Goy Larse

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Goy Larse » Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:44:42


>     The second advantage to partitons is when you defrag your hard drive.
> Do you know how LONG it takes to defrag an 80meg drive?  zzzzz zzzzzz
> zzzzzzz
> dave henrie

I don't know, the first HD I owned was 120meg, the PC's I worked on
before that only had 20 meg drives but we had IT people to deal with
things like that

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Gerald Moo

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Gerald Moo » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:35:58



> > And do I really need to partition the HD? Or put an other way how much
> > benefit do you get by partitioning an 80 gig drive?

> > TI

>     The biggest advantage to partioning is, at least with Fat32, you reduce
> the size of individual clusters.  So a one word text file consumes the same
> amount of hd space as a much larger file.  The smaller your partitions, the
> smaller each cluster becomes.  

This only really matters if you have a lot of small files.  Sure
there's some overhead with any file, but the percentage of wasted
space decreases dramatically as the average file size increases.

With 80GB of space, you can afford to waste some of it if you don't
want to partition your space.

Some of the Windows disk utilities struggle with large drives (not
sure how big is "large"), but there is a MS update for these.

Yep, it takes a while, as does simply formatting it, thorough scandisk
runs, etc.  I usually just let it start at bedtime and by morning it
is done.  If you anticipate running these tools freqently and during
otherwise productive times, you probably should create at least one
small partition for the OS to live in.

Gerald

Eldre

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Eldre » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:00:42



>    The biggest advantage to partioning is, at least with Fat32, you reduce
>the size of individual clusters.  So a one word text file consumes the same
>amount of hd space as a much larger file.  The smaller your partitions, the
>smaller each cluster becomes.  
>    The second advantage to partitons is when you defrag your hard drive.  
>Do you know how LONG it takes to defrag an 80meg drive?  zzzzz zzzzzz
>zzzzzzz
>dave henrie

So?  Let it run overnight...

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Uncle Feste

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:33:57




>>   The biggest advantage to partioning is, at least with Fat32, you reduce
>>the size of individual clusters.  So a one word text file consumes the same
>>amount of hd space as a much larger file.  The smaller your partitions, the
>>smaller each cluster becomes.  
>>   The second advantage to partitons is when you defrag your hard drive.  
>>Do you know how LONG it takes to defrag an 80meg drive?  zzzzz zzzzzz
>>zzzzzzz
>>dave henrie

> So?  Let it run overnight...

> Eldred

For only 80 megs?

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Eldre

OT : That's it I'm finally building my own system Questions?

by Eldre » Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:09:12



>>>   The second advantage to partitons is when you defrag your hard drive.  
>>>Do you know how LONG it takes to defrag an 80meg drive?  zzzzz zzzzzz
>>>zzzzzzz
>>>dave henrie

>> So?  Let it run overnight...

>> Eldred

>For only 80 megs?

Well, if you haven't run it in a while...   :-)
I have two 120's, but I've never timed how long a defrag takes.  Too bad the
utility doesn't come with a timer - I'm curious.

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