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Pit Stop Timer?

JC Spee

Pit Stop Timer?

by JC Spee » Thu, 19 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I enjoyed the pit stop timer in Nascar, I haven't seen anyone ask about it
in the Newsgroup, did nobody else care about it.. I would think since you
can now end repairs in the pit, to beat out the pack on the track, it seems
like a pit timer would be nice instead of relying on "Ned"
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HandyAn

Pit Stop Timer?

by HandyAn » Fri, 20 Dec 1996 04:00:00


I agree...I liked the pit timer also.  

On another note... is there a key to cancel repairs (not that I need repairs
much. :)) while in the pits?   Someone asked about it earlier in the posts and
I did not see anything on it. Please don't tell me I need to "read" the
manual.  Is that the little paper thingy that came in the box? LOL

Go High! Go High!
-Andy

Jim Sokolof

Pit Stop Timer?

by Jim Sokolof » Fri, 20 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> On another note... is there a key to cancel repairs (not that I need repairs
> much. :)) while in the pits?   Someone asked about it earlier in the posts and
> I did not see anything on it. Please don't tell me I need to "read" the
> manual.  Is that the little paper thingy that came in the box? LOL

While looking at the F9 screen, hit enter to toggle repair/no-repair.
When you stop repairs during a pit stop, your crew will complete
whatever repair it's working on, but will not start another. (So you
can't leave immediately, but you can leave within a couple seconds or
so.)

Did you not get a manual? I have to admit to not having seen the insides
of a production copy of N2, but I thought pretty certainly we had a real
manual in there...

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

David Spark

Pit Stop Timer?

by David Spark » Fri, 20 Dec 1996 04:00:00


The pit timer is available in the arcade view, but not the in-car view for
some reason. I miss the pit timer, but not for the same reason. In NASCAR
1, you could tell if you hadn't hit your pit stall right, because the timer
wouldn't start up. In N2, you have to wait a few seconds and see if the air
wrenches start up. Valuable time lost if you miss your stall.

I'm not sure what it is that you don't get from "Ned" (actually Ron
Gaines). In fact, I find the spotter messages more helpful, because he
tells you where the pace car is on the track. When the pace car hits T4,
bug out of the pits.

Dave (davids) Sparks
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'John' Joao Sil

Pit Stop Timer?

by 'John' Joao Sil » Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Yes, there is a pretty nice manual IMHO.

Actually, I should say I am REALLY glad there is a manual, with Sierra
owning Papyrus now, I was afraid they were going to do what they did
with EarthSiege2 and A-10 and not ship a manual, I had even promised
not to buy Nascar2 if there was no manual.

Well I am glad to say that I was not forced to have to live up to that,
it sure would have been hard to keep myself from buying Nascar2 and I
would have missed out on a terrific sim, but if we don't make our
stand about getting a paper manual with sims now, software companies
won't get the message until it is too late.

Cheers.

--John
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Todd F. Scot

Pit Stop Timer?

by Todd F. Scot » Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I agree 100% ... didn't write about it because there seemed to be too many
other important things in the program that don't work.  The thing drives
like a dream, but if you modem race which I do a lot, it's impossible to
finish a >30% race without ending early because of endless errors that are
going on.  For example, I was on the lead lap third in line on a restart
and the standings said I was in 9th place and it sends me back to the end
of the lead lap a lot because it says I went down pit lane when it was
"closed" when I never pitted.  I could go on and on ... anxiously waiting
the first patch.




Ron

Pit Stop Timer?

by Ron » Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:00:00

..snip
..snip

I Agree 100% with this! Good point, I have the same problem of not
knowing if I have stopped in the proper place until the few seconds
delay until the air-wrenches start up. What worse is if you are only
doing repairs, its even longer until you actually hear the sounds of
hammers, ect... It would be nice if the spotter were to shout
something quick like "You're in" or "Good stop" or anything!<<Hint
Papyrus!

Ron

David Marti

Pit Stop Timer?

by David Marti » Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> I enjoyed the pit stop timer in Nascar, I haven't seen anyone ask about it
> in the Newsgroup, did nobody else care about it.. I would think since you
> can now end repairs in the pit, to beat out the pack on the track, it seems
> like a pit timer would be nice instead of relying on "Ned"
> --

Mr. Gaines, I assume is who you are referring to, keeps you updated as
to where the pace car is.  If you stop repairs by the time the pace car
is in T4, you should be able to make it out in time.  Of course, you do
not want to do that when the pace car is coming in and the field is
going green.  BTW, you cannot interrupt regular service such as tires
and fuel, but the crew will stop immediately upon your request after
regular service is complete.  They also do not wait until regular
service is complete before they begin repairs.  They begin repairs
immediately, at least you hear the hammers and saws immediately.

David Martin

ANTRACE

Pit Stop Timer?

by ANTRACE » Sun, 22 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> ..snip
> >The pit timer is available in the arcade view, but not the in-car view for
> >some reason. I miss the pit timer, but not for the same reason. In NASCAR
> >1, you could tell if you hadn't hit your pit stall right, because the timer
> >wouldn't start up. In N2, you have to wait a few seconds and see if the air
> >wrenches start up. Valuable time lost if you miss your stall.

> ..snip

> I Agree 100% with this! Good point, I have the same problem of not
> knowing if I have stopped in the proper place until the few seconds
> delay until the air-wrenches start up. What worse is if you are only
> doing repairs, its even longer until you actually hear the sounds of
> hammers, ect... It would be nice if the spotter were to shout
> something quick like "You're in" or "Good stop" or anything!<<Hint
> Papyrus!

> Ron


                I'd settle for just being able to tell my crew chief to
get bent and gimme more gas....
dhen..

Pit Stop Timer?

by dhen.. » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00


writes:

  JIM!  JIM!  Who has time for READING manuals....I mean after all, with
all the info in there, do you have the setups that will guarentee me
winning the NRO(NO!  you seem to have left those out...:)  )  
  I suspect that manual reading comes after  many many laps have been
completed.
Of course if you made your programs more BORING we'd probably take up the
manuals MUCH sooner...hehe.
Dave Henrie

dhen..

Pit Stop Timer?

by dhen.. » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00


writes:

  I think the pit timer is a reflection of our TV NATION mentality.  Heck
every pitstop we see on the tube has the timer spinning away, why not N2?
Well, I don't recall Jeff Gordon or Dale Earnhardt impatiently glaring at
a stop watch while they are in the pits..  Once again, Papy makes the Sim
a bit more SIM-LIKE and they hear about it.
Dave Henrie

Mike Radl

Pit Stop Timer?

by Mike Radl » Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:00:00


>  I think the pit timer is a reflection of our TV NATION mentality.  Heck
>every pitstop we see on the tube has the timer spinning away, why not N2?
>Well, I don't recall Jeff Gordon or Dale Earnhardt impatiently glaring at
>a stop watch while they are in the pits..  Once again, Papy makes the Sim
>a bit more SIM-LIKE and they hear about it.
>Dave Henrie

Race teams were timing pit stops long before the TV guys started doing it.
IMHO, knowing how long it takes to pit is good information to have. There
maybe ways to improve your pit times even in the Sim (car position etc..).
You'll never know it if you don't go fishing for it. Since my lazy crew
chief won't record this information, then display it for me. At the very
least, more information allows me to make more informed decisions.

Mike Radler

myyke on Hawaii

George W. Aker Jr

Pit Stop Timer?

by George W. Aker Jr » Wed, 01 Jan 1997 04:00:00

WHAT???? why he's the one with the seaweed wrapped around him.


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