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OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

Thom j

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Thom j » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:28:26

Ya' gotta luv dose sitt'n lawn'mower races.. hahaha

| Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1
Parades.
| ;)
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btgos

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by btgos » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:37:31

I like the boat guy. He films in and around Jupiter Florida. It's about the
only time my old hometown is on TV, unless some parents are getting into a
***fight at a high school sporting event.

But back to the point. Nascar-Vision will be great for American short track
racing, bad for american road racing, except the LeMans series which NASCAR
has a part of (I think.)

btgoss


> Read it, and then read between the lines:

> "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway
> President John Graham.

> Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote
> tie-in with NASCAR.  Do you think they would air the Superbike
> championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at
> Lime Rock?  This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing
> to do with providing good coverage of motorsports.

> Hollow rhetoric.  We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more
> American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series
> needing coverage.

> :-/

> -- JB


> >read this article

>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
tml



> >>  Mark your calendars.  August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a
daily
> >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision.  This most likely will be
first
> >>step in the takeover of SV.  I wonder how much Euro racing we will see
this
> >>time next year?
> >>dave henrie

John Bod

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by John Bod » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:05:42

I'm frankly kind of fond of the swamp buggy races myself -- which is
why I'm probably the ONLY member of this newsgroup who actually owns a
copy of "Swamp Buggy Racing."

:-/

-- JB



>Ya' gotta luv dose sitt'n lawn'mower races.. hahaha


>| Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1
>Parades.
>| ;)
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John Bod

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by John Bod » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:06:58

Good point about the benefit to American short track racing, Brian.
Hopefully that will mean some expanded IRL coverage as well -- like
maybe a weekly "Insider the IRL" program or such.

-- JB

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:37:31 GMT, "btgoss"


>I like the boat guy. He films in and around Jupiter Florida. It's about the
>only time my old hometown is on TV, unless some parents are getting into a
>fist fight at a high school sporting event.

>But back to the point. Nascar-Vision will be great for American short track
>racing, bad for american road racing, except the LeMans series which NASCAR
>has a part of (I think.)

>btgoss



>> Read it, and then read between the lines:

>> "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway
>> President John Graham.

>> Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote
>> tie-in with NASCAR.  Do you think they would air the Superbike
>> championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at
>> Lime Rock?  This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing
>> to do with providing good coverage of motorsports.

>> Hollow rhetoric.  We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more
>> American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series
>> needing coverage.

>> :-/

>> -- JB


>> >read this article

>>http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010...
>tml



>> >>  Mark your calendars.  August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a
>daily
>> >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision.  This most likely will be
>first
>> >>step in the takeover of SV.  I wonder how much Euro racing we will see
>this
>> >>time next year?
>> >>dave henrie

Scott B. Huste

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Scott B. Huste » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:10:22

Well hell, it's more entertaining than an F1 parade!  =)

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> I'm frankly kind of fond of the swamp buggy races myself -- which is
> why I'm probably the ONLY member of this newsgroup who actually owns a
> copy of "Swamp Buggy Racing."

> :-/

> -- JB



> >Ya' gotta luv dose sitt'n lawn'mower races.. hahaha


> >| Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1
> >Parades.
> >| ;)
> >| --
> >| Scott B. Husted

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Dave Henri

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Dave Henri » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:30:29

  Well they have a limited de-facto partnership.  IRL runs on several tracks
owned by Nascar participants.
expect something...
dave henrie

> Good point about the benefit to American short track racing, Brian.
> Hopefully that will mean some expanded IRL coverage as well -- like
> maybe a weekly "Insider the IRL" program or such.

> -- JB

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:37:31 GMT, "btgoss"

> >I like the boat guy. He films in and around Jupiter Florida. It's about
the
> >only time my old hometown is on TV, unless some parents are getting into
a
> >fist fight at a high school sporting event.

> >But back to the point. Nascar-Vision will be great for American short
track
> >racing, bad for american road racing, except the LeMans series which
NASCAR
> >has a part of (I think.)

> >btgoss



> >> Read it, and then read between the lines:

> >> "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway
> >> President John Graham.

> >> Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote
> >> tie-in with NASCAR.  Do you think they would air the Superbike
> >> championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at
> >> Lime Rock?  This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing
> >> to do with providing good coverage of motorsports.

> >> Hollow rhetoric.  We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more
> >> American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series
> >> needing coverage.

> >> :-/

> >> -- JB


> >> >read this article

>>http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010....
h
> >tml



> >> >>  Mark your calendars.  August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a
> >daily
> >> >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision.  This most likely will be
> >first
> >> >>step in the takeover of SV.  I wonder how much Euro racing we will
see
> >this
> >> >>time next year?
> >> >>dave henrie

Ken Bear

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Ken Bear » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:59:03

Amazing, you slam on "rednecks" yet can't figure out whether to use there /
their properly.

Priceless....

P.S. - yeah, I know - knocking on spelliing, grammar, etc. is kinda lame -
BUT when someone is trying to sound pompous / elitist / etc. - I think it's
kinda justified  <VBG>


Darko Juva

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Darko Juva » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 05:06:23

Again, the world is getting smaller and smaller for Americans, and I don't
see what good is that for. Maybe more so called "world champions", but less
to do anything with the World. Sound authistic, doesn't it?

Darko


> Amazing, you slam on "rednecks" yet can't figure out whether to use there
/
> their properly.

> Priceless....

> P.S. - yeah, I know - knocking on spelliing, grammar, etc. is kinda lame -
> BUT when someone is trying to sound pompous / elitist / etc. - I think
it's
> kinda justified  <VBG>



> > > I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows.

> > I'm not a boat restoring kinda person but i rather watch that than
> > nascar. Come on, 43 red necks turning left for four hours then a daily
> > hour long show that recaps there left turning abilities...

Sean Higgin

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Sean Higgin » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:06:49

Who are you, and what did you do with the REAL Scott???

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> Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1
Parades.
> ;)

> --
> Scott B. Husted
> ICQ# 4395450
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/







> > >>  Mark your calendars.  August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a
> daily
> > >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision.  This most likely will be
> first
> > >>step in the takeover of SV.  I wonder how much Euro racing we will see
> this
> > >>time next year?
> > >>dave henrie

> > >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the ***they have on
> > >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in
> > >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of
> > >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage.

> > >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows.

> > You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts
> > would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to
> > historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of
> > ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat
> > restoration shows?

> > The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like
> > boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR),
> > rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have
> > helped make Speedvision what it is.  And all of which will have
> > NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either.

> > Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision
> > as we know it.  It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's
> > DEFINITELY going to get worse.

> > :-(

> > -- JB

Top Sirlo

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Top Sirlo » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:08:39



It's easy to take the extremist viewpoint, but SV is going to keep the
programming that brings in $$, and filler ***will be the first to
go.

-Scott Johnson
 "You know I could be a fascist, it's just too much trouble.  I'm not into
  popularity, and since most people are dumb asses keeping tabs on them would
  be a real chore." -Chief in alt.***

Top Sirlo

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Top Sirlo » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:11:06



I am smelling the coffee. SV's chance of being profitable with it's
current lineup is _small_. Adding some NASCAR programming is going to
help insure that the things we all want to see are going to hang
around.

I hope.

-Scott Johnson
 "You know I could be a fascist, it's just too much trouble.  I'm not into
  popularity, and since most people are dumb asses keeping tabs on them would
  be a real chore." -Chief in alt.***

Top Sirlo

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Top Sirlo » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:12:05

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:06:49 GMT, "Sean Higgins"


>Who are you, and what did you do with the REAL Scott???

Every newsgroup has too many damn Scotts. :-)

-Scott Johnson
 "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than
  to have soft, chubby, fat-looking children who go
  to watch their school play basketball every Saturday
  and regard that as their week's exercise."
                       - John F. Kennedy, 1962

mark jeangerar

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by mark jeangerar » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:53:18

For me the beauty of speedvision is the diversity and sheer quality of
information. Legends: you know, an hour long show on Nouvalari (sp?) or a
single season of MG racing in the 50s. One of the most beautiful things I've
ever seen in my life was a show in which Alain DeCadenet (sp?) drove all the
great Porsches. I almost cried when they fired up the 908. (904? The little
black thing.) Or how about when Alain D. did the same thing with Ferrari?
*** out on the lawn at Goodwood. In car with Moss at Laguna. That
viewing of Le Mans, the movie, this year.... with the interviews of the film
makers... Phenomenal!

With nascarvision we can pretty much forget about the Dakar coverage.

For me the sign will be when DeCadenet goes. Once they can him you know they
are serious about driving the final stake through the heart of racing in
America. "Get it off TV then they won't bicker when we make right turns
illegal in the WKA and IKF." Them nascar hick ***sticks can't stand to see
a talented driver go. Just ruins their day.

...and don't even get 'em started on a proper racing car... nothing should
weigh 1000 pounds.

"Racing! - Science for the action minded."

mark





> >>  Mark your calendars.  August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a
daily
> >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision.  This most likely will be
first
> >>step in the takeover of SV.  I wonder how much Euro racing we will see
this
> >>time next year?
> >>dave henrie

> >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the ***they have on
> >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in
> >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of
> >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage.

> >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows.

> You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts
> would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to
> historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of
> ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat
> restoration shows?

> The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like
> boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR),
> rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have
> helped make Speedvision what it is.  And all of which will have
> NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either.

> Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision
> as we know it.  It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's
> DEFINITELY going to get worse.

> :-(

> -- JB

Gaul

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Gaul » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:59:58


Caught that... marvelous!  A real shame the format is changing.  :-(

Gaul

OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

by Gaul » Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:04:54

Somebody over in alt.recreation.boating probably is, I bet.  My wife once
commented on the amount of non-auto programming and all I could say is that
it IS "SPEEDvision" after all, and no doubt there are boating and aviation
enthusiasts out there who'll miss that stuff as much as I'll miss the live
F1 and Le Mans broadcasts.  We niche groups have to stick together.  :-)


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