rec.autos.simulators

>So I thought to myself, "I did pretty good at Indy against the AI...why
>not try another oval?" I picked Bristol at random, skipped practice,
>started at the back of the grid...and the AI never made it through the
>first lap! I ran the rest alone and got my first headline, but so what?
>No fun there, no sense of accomplishment. I kept the screenshot, but 2nd
>at IMS means a whole lot more as I had the pack right behind me and
>Clark pulling away in front, i.e. a race.

>This is why I'm not concerned about cheating at GPLRank...it's just
>meaningless. GPL seems to attract drivers and sportsmen (and
>sportswomen) for whom the work involved in getting fast is the point.
>Numbers are meaningless without the struggle to achieve them by sweat
>and skill.

>Stepping down from the pulpit,

>J. P. Hovercraft

>So I thought to myself, "I did pretty good at Indy against the AI...why
>not try another oval?" I picked Bristol at random, skipped practice,
>started at the back of the grid...and the AI never made it through the
>first lap! I ran the rest alone and got my first headline, but so what?
>No fun there, no sense of accomplishment. I kept the screenshot, but 2nd
>at IMS means a whole lot more as I had the pack right behind me and
>Clark pulling away in front, i.e. a race.

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 03:29:15 GMT, "J. P. Hovercraft"

> >So I thought to myself, "I did pretty good at Indy against the AI...why
> >not try another oval?" I picked Bristol at random, skipped practice,
> >started at the back of the grid...and the AI never made it through the
> >first lap! I ran the rest alone and got my first headline, but so what?
> >No fun there, no sense of accomplishment. I kept the screenshot, but 2nd
> >at IMS means a whole lot more as I had the pack right behind me and
> >Clark pulling away in front, i.e. a race.

> Only tracks converted with the full version of the converter have a
> good AI. Bristol is converted with the demo version, and doesn't have
> a working AI. I expected that the full version would also convert the
> track from the demo version with a good AI, I was a little bit
> surprised and disappointed that that wasn't the case.

> Andre

> >This is why I'm not concerned about cheating at GPLRank...it's just
> >meaningless. GPL seems to attract drivers and sportsmen (and
> >sportswomen) for whom the work involved in getting fast is the point.
> >Numbers are meaningless without the struggle to achieve them by sweat
> >and skill.

> >Stepping down from the pulpit,

> >J. P. Hovercraft

> <snip>
> >This is why I'm not concerned about cheating at GPLRank...it's just
> >meaningless. GPL seems to attract drivers and sportsmen (and
> >sportswomen) for whom the work involved in getting fast is the
> >point.

> Precisely. Seeing as the records are held in a standard text file, any
> one of us could leapfrog above Greger, Wolfgang & co in 30 seconds.
> Then what would we do? There are some games where cheating is almost
> expected (look at how many games have cheat codes these days), but GPL
> ain't one of them. I deperately want to get a negative handicap, but
> just changine the "+" to a "-" in my sig would mean nothing.

> >Numbers are meaningless without the struggle to achieve them
> >by sweat and skill.

> Especially the sweat... I'm sure I'm not the only person who has to go
> and change my shirt after a Ring session!

> --
> David. (GPLRank handicap: +8.85)
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
> really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 03:29:15 GMT, "J. P. Hovercraft"

> >So I thought to myself, "I did pretty good at Indy against the AI...why
> >not try another oval?" I picked Bristol at random, skipped practice,
> >started at the back of the grid...and the AI never made it through the
> >first lap! I ran the rest alone and got my first headline, but so what?
> >No fun there, no sense of accomplishment. I kept the screenshot, but 2nd
> >at IMS means a whole lot more as I had the pack right behind me and
> >Clark pulling away in front, i.e. a race.

> Only tracks converted with the full version of the converter have a
> good AI. Bristol is converted with the demo version, and doesn't have
> a working AI. I expected that the full version would also convert the
> track from the demo version with a good AI, I was a little bit
> surprised and disappointed that that wasn't the case.

> Andre

>David. (GPLRank handicap: +8.85)

>>David. (GPLRank handicap: +8.85)

>Moving up in the world, David?

>>>David. (GPLRank handicap: +8.85)

>>Moving up in the world, David?
><snip>

>Yep :-) Nearly there now - a little bit more at Kyalami, Mexico, Monaco
>and Zandvoort should do it. Ringtrainer has worked wonders (get it now,
>folks, if you haven't already) - my improvement is almost entirely down
>to that (plus a reasonable Lotus setup at last).

> Yeah, I'm almost sure I converted it using the retail converter. I guess
it's
> the first time I've tried an AI race on an oval other than IMS. The AI
seems
> to work there just fine. Maybe I'll run the converter again, just to be
sure.

> J. P. Hoverraft

> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 03:29:15 GMT, "J. P. Hovercraft"

> > >So I thought to myself, "I did pretty good at Indy against the AI...why
> > >not try another oval?" I picked Bristol at random, skipped practice,
> > >started at the back of the grid...and the AI never made it through the
> > >first lap! I ran the rest alone and got my first headline, but so what?
> > >No fun there, no sense of accomplishment. I kept the screenshot, but
2nd
> > >at IMS means a whole lot more as I had the pack right behind me and
> > >Clark pulling away in front, i.e. a race.

> > Only tracks converted with the full version of the converter have a
> > good AI. Bristol is converted with the demo version, and doesn't have
> > a working AI. I expected that the full version would also convert the
> > track from the demo version with a good AI, I was a little bit
> > surprised and disappointed that that wasn't the case.

> > Andre

> > >This is why I'm not concerned about cheating at GPLRank...it's just
> > >meaningless. GPL seems to attract drivers and sportsmen (and
> > >sportswomen) for whom the work involved in getting fast is the point.
> > >Numbers are meaningless without the struggle to achieve them by sweat
> > >and skill.

> > >Stepping down from the pulpit,

> > >J. P. Hovercraft

>How do you get the retail converter... I'm interested.