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NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

pw

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by pw » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:09:20

Is there a setting I missed?

I just ran Atlanta for instance, and half way through the race there
was an accident (and I was involved of course :-) and the race results
screen was immediately displayed and the race was over!  There were
many laps left to race!  My car seemed fine.

Also the cars only go out of view in this "sim" (no spectacular
crashes like in NR2003).

I really need to learn how to stay in line though :-)  Seems harder
compared to NR2003.

-paul

-pw
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Plowbo

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by Plowbo » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:49:26

Yeah it is a setting that EA didnt make for you to adjust easily.  google
this group, you got to edit the (PlayerName you created).PLR file using
NOTEPAD.  I cannot recall exactly what the line youre looking for, something
about AIcontrol of car.  Like I said google this group searching or look at
the reasonably good forums on OnlineRacin.com site.
pw enlightened us with:
Smokin_Bo

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by Smokin_Bo » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:26:17

In the Player.plr file, you will need to edit the line

NoAIControl=0, change the '0' to a 1 and the AI will not kick you out
of the car after a day ending wreck.

I think the line is near the top, and it may not be worded exaclty like
that, but you will see it just fine.

pw

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by pw » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:53

Down right silly.  But thanks!  I will give it a try.

Like I said, my car seemed fine.  But maybe I accidentally (pun
intended :-)  have damage turned off.

-pw
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pw

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by pw » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:11:21

Found it under Driving Aids.  Will give it a try in a few.

I also found under Game Options: Crash Recovery="1" // Artificially
keep cars on track or flip cars upright.  I wonder what that does?

And, I found Driver Name="Matt Kenseth".  Hmmm... I've been driving
Tony Stewart's car and haven't tried the 17 car yet!!

-pw
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pw

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by pw » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:24:23

That was it!  Now I have to review that file to see why nobody is
getting any damage!  This "sim" is bizarre.  I have never seen one
(racing or flying) that buries so much essential settings!  I have
seen no reference to the .plr file in the "manual"!

I wish I could get NR2003 working again <s>

Thanks!

-pw
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Dave Henri

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by Dave Henri » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:07



  If an AI driven car gets disabled, or runs out of fuel, it will stay at
it's last resting place.  Normal behavior, with the setting of =0 means the
car will be wisked away to the garage as soon as it stops.  
  Also, if you find yourself upside down, the =1 setting will right your
car,   This does not affect damage to your vehicle.

   Generally, in the past, the ISI sims will only end a race if your car is
unfixable.  In the past, that meant rear wing damage or wheel seperation.  
From F1c on, you could at least repair a rear wing in the pits with a
longer than average pitstop.  I don't have NSR so I can't explore why your
car is being parked with minimal damage.  Check the final standings screen
to see if the official explanation is given(i.e. piston, accident etc)
dh

Smokin_Bo

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by Smokin_Bo » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:59:47

That manual is quite amusing :) It would make good toilet paper....

 I think for the damage, there is a toggle box inside the sim
itself--and make sure to set the difficulty (under advanced difficulty
tab) to your liking.  I am pretty sure there is a setting for damage in
the game, so be careful editing the *.plr file too much here.

Also, in order to avoid the yellow flag/leader bug (if you are in the
lead, and the yellow comes out, you get a black flag when it
restarts!!) make sure to enable AI Pace Lap under the advanced settings
tab as well.  It is a crappy workaround, but it does work.

pw

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by pw » Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:16:21



>> I also found under Game Options: Crash Recovery="1" // Artificially
>> keep cars on track or flip cars upright.  I wonder what that does?

>  If an AI driven car gets disabled, or runs out of fuel, it will stay at
>it's last resting place.  Normal behavior, with the setting of =0 means the
>car will be wisked away to the garage as soon as it stops.  
>  Also, if you find yourself upside down, the =1 setting will right your
>car,   This does not affect damage to your vehicle.

>   Generally, in the past, the ISI sims will only end a race if your car is
>unfixable.  In the past, that meant rear wing damage or wheel seperation.  
>From F1c on, you could at least repair a rear wing in the pits with a
>longer than average pitstop.  I don't have NSR so I can't explore why your
>car is being parked with minimal damage.  Check the final standings screen
>to see if the official explanation is given(i.e. piston, accident etc)
>dh

Will do Dave.  I don't know how a few people find out how this stuff
works in NSR as there is almost no documentation (at least compared to
the Papy series!).

Thanks!

-pw
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pw

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by pw » Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:19:25

I will keep looking.

Was afraid of doing so.  I will back it up.

No way!  And I've never run any sim of any kind where babied to the
point that you can't always control your vehicle, whatever...!  Papy
didn't do this (from what I can recall).

Thanks again Bob!

-pw
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by Smokin_Bo » Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:47:08

Anytime!!!  (forgot to put that in last message :) )
Smokin_Bo

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by Smokin_Bo » Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:46:36

Yeah, I don't even want to know what version of crack the beta testers
were smoking when they let the yellow flag\leader black flag bug out
the door. Simply unbelievable about that. And the manual?  Whoever was
responsible for that needs to learn a few things about 'manuals'.  One
important thing--manuals have these things in them, called 'words', and
you need them so folks can use the product.  Utter rubbish, that
manual.  Unforgivable.  I am not some console pimple boy (but I do own
PS2 and XBOX, so some days I am pimple boy--BUT NOT WITH '***'
SIMS, and I learned how to read long ago--perhaps EA simply has no
money left over to shove more than a few pieces of toilet paper in the
box.  And not anything regarding the new replay features, the
intricacies of career mode--my review of this sim was three times the
size of that manual!!!  Oh well, this trend has been happening for
quite some time, apparently EA is not rich enough yet.

And, the promised 'same day as release' patch is no where to be found.
Then again, an EA day is like 65 'normal human' days.  No doubt this
sim has a ton of potential, and I really do like the driving
physics--best effort ever from EA.  But if they do not plan on
supporting this sim, the I think it is quite clear that EA is simply
producing boxes of beta tests that get updated once a year, and
renamed.

Only time will tell, lets hope for the best....

pw

NSR: Why does the race end after I get in an accident ???

by pw » Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:24:15

Hey Bob,

Would you mind posting your two responses to me again?  Newsfeeds west
coast server went down and I missed them.  I will try and find them
using Google (instead of Agent).

Thanks!

-pw
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pw

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by pw » Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:59:21

Nevermind Bob! I found your replies at Google Groups.  Excuse me for
not replying, as I forget my user name and password there.

-pw
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by Smokin_Bo » Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:52:57

No problems, pw, I must have forgotten my PW at least 5 times, and have
only been here a couple of weeks :)  I hope NSR is going ok for you,
sounds like the 'patch' is in some kind of stage of completion so
looking forward to that one for sure.

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