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Anyone makeing pedals like these?

Stephen Smit

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Stephen Smit » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:21:07

Great lookin' pedals!

Try these (Japanese).  Not suspended from overhead, but look to be same high
quality:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

--Steve Smith


Is there anyone making pedals like these any where?
The original manufacturer is no longer making them.

C. Pierce

Phil Le

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Phil Le » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:33:49


Is there anyone making pedals like these any where?
The original manufacturer is no longer making them.

Or you could try the Speed 7 pedals produced by BallRacing Developments at
http://www.interactiveracing.com

Cheers

Phil Lee
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Internet Use

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Internet Use » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 06:06:05




> Is there anyone making pedals like these any where?
> The original manufacturer is no longer making them.

> Or you could try the Speed 7 pedals produced by BallRacing Developments at
> http://www.interactiveracing.com

> Cheers

> Phil Lee

Who has 295 to spend on pedals alone?  It's great to see that Ball Racing
has finally updated their web page.  Are these pedals really shipping now or
must we wait another year?
Douglas Elliso

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Douglas Elliso » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:28:18


Evidently not you otherwise you wouldnt take offense to the price. Who has
295 to spend on a GF3 graphics card (they were a lot more than that at one
point) or 295 on a decent P4 CPU, or perhaps a couple of large hard drives,
or a good monitor. For a serious sim racer - when taking into cosideration
as part of a rig - they're actually no more expensive than many components
of a decent PC.

??? Yer what? They started shipping Dec 10th as far as I know

Doug
(getting a set as a Crimble pressie from a rich relative - well - a cheque
anyway :D)

Internet Use

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Internet Use » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:19:04




> > Who has 295 to spend on pedals alone?

> Evidently not you otherwise you wouldnt take offense to the price. Who has
> 295 to spend on a GF3 graphics card (they were a lot more than that at
one
> point) or 295 on a decent P4 CPU, or perhaps a couple of large hard
drives,
> or a good monitor. For a serious sim racer - when taking into cosideration
> as part of a rig - they're actually no more expensive than many components
> of a decent PC.

My point is this... 295 == $425.  That's (2) P4 processors, or (1.5) GF3 or
(1) GF3 when they were first released.  That's 1 gigabyte of RAM or (2) 120
gigabyte harddrives.  So the pedals are actually quite a bit more expensive
than components in a decent PC.   That's a hell of a lot of money and its
just for the pedals.  I spent $500 on my wheel and pedals.  100% steel with
3 top hinged pedals.   Do I have $425 that I could use to buy pedals?  Many
times over.  But's that's not really my point.  $425 is quite a bit for just
for the pedals.
Bob

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Bob » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:32:48

Yes they're shipping.  Just received my upgrade today :-)  My opinion so
far?....WOW, what a first class high quality product.  Pedals are so
adjustable I've been able to get just the perfect set up for me.

Pedal to pot actuation is gear driven, and the springs are enclosed in a
cylinder so that when you apply pressure it is compressing the springs,
rather than pulling on them.

This pedal unit stands head and shoulders above anything I've tried before,
and that includes my son's TSW unit and my ECCI CDS 4000.

Here's a list of features from their website.
  a.. Extruded aluminium structure for maximum strength but still
lightweight
  The rake angle and pedal travel have both macro and micro adjustments so
that whatever race car environment you wish to create, you can.

  b.. The pedal head spacing is adjustable so that you can create the
perfect heel and toe set up for you.

  c.. Authentic brake, throttle and clutch feel and easily modified so it is
just right for you.

  d.. Floor or overhead pedal mountable
  Fully compatible for overhead mounting with our Race Frame Pro chassis

  e.. Self calibrating (no more Windows calibration required)

  f.. Compatible with all BRD Sim steering controls

  g.. USB compatible interface

  h.. Future proofed design and software architecture

  i.. Precision potentiometers

  j.. Suitable for race driver training

  k.. Carbon fibre footplate on 2 pedal version

  l.. Modular parts for easy servicing

  m.. Tool kit supplied

  n.. Performance Guarantee - if this system does not help to improve you
Sim racing performance just return the product within 90 days for a full
refund.






> > Is there anyone making pedals like these any where?
> > The original manufacturer is no longer making them.

> > Or you could try the Speed 7 pedals produced by BallRacing Developments
at
> > http://www.interactiveracing.com

> > Cheers

> > Phil Lee

> Who has 295 to spend on pedals alone?  It's great to see that Ball Racing
> has finally updated their web page.  Are these pedals really shipping now
or
> must we wait another year?

Tim

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Tim » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:05:40

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:19:04 -0500, "Internet User"


>My point is this... 295 == $425.  That's (2) P4 processors, or (1.5) GF3 or
>(1) GF3 when they were first released.  That's 1 gigabyte of RAM or (2) 120
>gigabyte harddrives.  So the pedals are actually quite a bit more expensive
>than components in a decent PC.   That's a hell of a lot of money and its
>just for the pedals.  I spent $500 on my wheel and pedals.  100% steel with
>3 top hinged pedals.   Do I have $425 that I could use to buy pedals?  Many
>times over.  But's that's not really my point.  $425 is quite a bit for just
>for the pedals.

They're a niche product, even more niche than your 500 dollar wheel.
The company makes a top quality, high-end product that isn't going to
sell to a huge market. They're not doing it for free, so somebody is
going to have to absorb their R&D, overhead and manufacturing costs.
Any, and I mean ANY hobby you get into has someone doing something
like this... There are $10,000 mini bikes, $1800 pellet guns, and
$6,000 bicycles.

If you're questioning the price, they're not made for you, period.
I actually can't justify that expense either, if it matters.
Sim racing is a sideline, not a primary hobby, so my money gets spent
elsewhere. My limit is a Wingman Momo. Pretty low end here, but if I
told a non-simmer what I spent on it, they'd think a $200 plastic
steering wheel was absurd.

Perspective is a funny thing, eh?

Tim

Stephen Smit

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Stephen Smit » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:20:29

There is no other way to spend $425 that will improve your lap times as much
as a good controller.  Sad but true.

--Steve Smith






> > > Who has 295 to spend on pedals alone?

> > Evidently not you otherwise you wouldnt take offense to the price. Who
has
> > 295 to spend on a GF3 graphics card (they were a lot more than that at
> one
> > point) or 295 on a decent P4 CPU, or perhaps a couple of large hard
> drives,
> > or a good monitor. For a serious sim racer - when taking into
cosideration
> > as part of a rig - they're actually no more expensive than many
components
> > of a decent PC.

> My point is this... 295 == $425.  That's (2) P4 processors, or (1.5) GF3
or
> (1) GF3 when they were first released.  That's 1 gigabyte of RAM or (2)
120
> gigabyte harddrives.  So the pedals are actually quite a bit more
expensive
> than components in a decent PC.   That's a hell of a lot of money and its
> just for the pedals.  I spent $500 on my wheel and pedals.  100% steel
with
> 3 top hinged pedals.   Do I have $425 that I could use to buy pedals?
Many
> times over.  But's that's not really my point.  $425 is quite a bit for
just
> for the pedals.

Gerry Aitke

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Gerry Aitke » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:00:37

Hi Chad

Yep, http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

Very high quality at a sensible price.

Gerry

Goy Larse

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Goy Larse » Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:29:58


> Great lookin' pedals!

> Try these (Japanese).  Not suspended from overhead, but look to be same high
> quality:

I don't see the original message anywhere, so not quite sure what the
question was :-), but I use these pedals......

http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

Beers and cheers
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Stephen Smit

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Stephen Smit » Mon, 24 Dec 2001 04:10:02

Boy, Goy - those look like the cat's p.j.'s.  Good stuff!



> > Great lookin' pedals!

> > Try these (Japanese).  Not suspended from overhead, but look to be same
high
> > quality:

> I don't see the original message anywhere, so not quite sure what the
> question was :-), but I use these pedals......

> http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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Will DeRiver

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Will DeRiver » Mon, 24 Dec 2001 08:24:15


Haha! Very true! My friends laughed at me when i bought my $100 Thrustmaster
T2 some 4 years ago. "A hundred bucks? For a wheel? For your computer?
You've lost it." You should have heard what they said when i paid close to
600 for my TSW2. lol.
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Eldre

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Eldre » Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:20:53



>> Great lookin' pedals!

>> Try these (Japanese).  Not suspended from overhead, but look to be same
>high
>> quality:

>I don't see the original message anywhere, so not quite sure what the
>question was :-), but I use these pedals......

>http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

Oh MY...  That looks almost professional(with the cost that goes along with
it..<g>)
<checks price sheet...>
Yep, that's what I thought...

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Goy Larse

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Goy Larse » Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:08:42



> >I don't see the original message anywhere, so not quite sure what the
> >question was :-), but I use these pedals......

> >http://www.racesimcentral.net/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

> Oh MY...  That looks almost professional(with the cost that goes along with
> it..<g>)
> <checks price sheet...>
> Yep, that's what I thought...

Well, it all depends on how much you're using your gear doesn't it, at
the time when I made my wheel and bought these pedals to go along with
it, I raced sims more hours pr day than I care to think about now :-),
and having had close to 2 years of (almost) trouble free racing, it has
been worth it to me

I've changed one spring in that time, and as usual it went 5 mins before
qual started, took me less than 2 mins to change the spring due to the
fact that the unit is constructed by an enthusiast who knows that these
things happen, and it will serve me almost indefinitely by the looks of
things, still no play, rattles or squeaks, I do need to change the pots
now though

But if you can't justify the expense, you can't, it's as simple as that
really, I'm living in a country where prices are generally quite high on
stuff like this, a basic Logitech FF wheel is over 120 dollars, so a
couple of hours work on the wheel and a couple of hundred dollars on the
best pedals you can get for "reasonable" money was a good investment for
me having just changed the bungee chord, springs and pots on my TM
Nascar PRO wheel for the ump***th time....:-)

Beers and cheers
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Goy Larse

Anyone makeing pedals like these?

by Goy Larse » Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:11:25


> Boy, Goy - those look like the cat's p.j.'s.  Good stuff!

Yeah, imho, they're as good as they look, I especially appreciate the
dual spring setup on the brake pedal which effectively makes the pedal
pressure sensitive rather than positional, which makes all the
difference in sims which models locking wheels, Nigel is a GPL
enthusiast.....:-)

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