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need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

E E

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by E E » Fri, 19 May 2000 04:00:00

Hi all,

I just got re-interested in running both GPL and N3.

Currently running PII 450, 128 Mb SDRAM, Voodoo 2 (16mb) and SB Live.

Thinking about a new mainboard with AMD 650-750 and maybe a better video
card (any recommendations ???).

What can I upgrade to without "screwing up" ny GPL and N3 installed
programs ???

Everything is working great, don't want to "rock the boat" by changing
hardware and having to completely re-install WIN 98 or N3/GPL.

Thanks for any advice,

Emery Emond

Dave Henri

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Dave Henri » Fri, 19 May 2000 04:00:00

  3dfx V3 3k or if you have the cash 3dfx V5 5.5k   DO NOT GET A
GEFORCE/TNT/NVIDEA/ATI/MATROX. if you want to keep gpl percolating
along.  ESPECIALLY DONOT COME BACK HERE AND BEG FOR HELP IF YOU DO! :>
DAVE(ahem) henrie

> Hi all,

> I just got re-interested in running both GPL and N3.

> Currently running PII 450, 128 Mb SDRAM, Voodoo 2 (16mb) and SB Live.

> Thinking about a new mainboard with AMD 650-750 and maybe a better video
> card (any recommendations ???).

> What can I upgrade to without "screwing up" ny GPL and N3 installed
> programs ???

> Everything is working great, don't want to "rock the boat" by changing
> hardware and having to completely re-install WIN 98 or N3/GPL.

> Thanks for any advice,

> Emery Emond

Bill Jone

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Bill Jone » Fri, 19 May 2000 04:00:00


Couldn't he upgrade his system and get a GeForce and continuing using his V2
for GPL?  I thought you could do that?

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> > Hi all,

> > I just got re-interested in running both GPL and N3.

> > Currently running PII 450, 128 Mb SDRAM, Voodoo 2 (16mb) and SB Live.

> > Thinking about a new mainboard with AMD 650-750 and maybe a better video
> > card (any recommendations ???).

> > What can I upgrade to without "screwing up" ny GPL and N3 installed
> > programs ???

> > Everything is working great, don't want to "rock the boat" by changing
> > hardware and having to completely re-install WIN 98 or N3/GPL.

> > Thanks for any advice,

> > Emery Emond

Kirk Lan

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Kirk Lan » Fri, 19 May 2000 04:00:00

Well, if you do get a new mobo, I would personally reinstall Win98, seems to
work much easier for me that way...because just about EVERYTHING changes.

As far as the video card, if you wanna run GPL and N3, stick with a Voodoo.
The V4's and V5's are out now I think.

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> Hi all,

> I just got re-interested in running both GPL and N3.

> Currently running PII 450, 128 Mb SDRAM, Voodoo 2 (16mb) and SB Live.

> Thinking about a new mainboard with AMD 650-750 and maybe a better video
> card (any recommendations ???).

> What can I upgrade to without "screwing up" ny GPL and N3 installed
> programs ???

> Everything is working great, don't want to "rock the boat" by changing
> hardware and having to completely re-install WIN 98 or N3/GPL.

> Thanks for any advice,

> Emery Emond

Don Burnett

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Don Burnett » Sat, 20 May 2000 04:00:00

The V3 card would run both very nicely for you on that 450.

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Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends


> Hi all,

> I just got re-interested in running both GPL and N3.

> Currently running PII 450, 128 Mb SDRAM, Voodoo 2 (16mb) and SB Live.

> Thinking about a new mainboard with AMD 650-750 and maybe a better video
> card (any recommendations ???).

> What can I upgrade to without "screwing up" ny GPL and N3 installed
> programs ???

> Everything is working great, don't want to "rock the boat" by changing
> hardware and having to completely re-install WIN 98 or N3/GPL.

> Thanks for any advice,

> Emery Emond

Dave Henri

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Dave Henri » Sat, 20 May 2000 04:00:00




> >   3dfx V3 3k or if you have the cash 3dfx V5 5.5k   DO NOT GET A
> > GEFORCE/TNT/NVIDEA/ATI/MATROX. if you want to keep gpl percolating
> > along.  ESPECIALLY DONOT COME BACK HERE AND BEG FOR HELP IF YOU DO! :>
> > DAVE(ahem) henrie

> Couldn't he upgrade his system and get a GeForce and continuing using his V2
> for GPL?  I thought you could do that?

  yes he could but that wouldn't upgrade the performance of GPL.  Unless
he added a 2nd V2 he'd still be stuck with the speed  single V2 could
produce.  That would be exactly the same as before...therefore not a
good choice for an upgrade.  
  I did miss pointing something out though.
  N3 and GPL are not cutting edge graphically, the newer sims like N4,
WSC and GP3 will probably require far more CPU and Vidcard horsepower
than before.  So upgrading now to a level of N3 or gpl would still leave
you deficient when trying to run "the next big thing'
dave henrie

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> > > Hi all,

> > > I just got re-interested in running both GPL and N3.

> > > Currently running PII 450, 128 Mb SDRAM, Voodoo 2 (16mb) and SB Live.

> > > Thinking about a new mainboard with AMD 650-750 and maybe a better video
> > > card (any recommendations ???).

> > > What can I upgrade to without "screwing up" ny GPL and N3 installed
> > > programs ???

> > > Everything is working great, don't want to "rock the boat" by changing
> > > hardware and having to completely re-install WIN 98 or N3/GPL.

> > > Thanks for any advice,

> > > Emery Emond

Jon Wille

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Jon Wille » Sat, 20 May 2000 04:00:00

I second the suggestion to reinstall.  A new motherboard will have a
different IDE controller, AGP chipset, USB controller, etc.  You might
get away without a reinstall, but why start on such slippery ground?

I second the suggestion to keep a Voodoo for GPL.  Your Voodoo2 should
let you hotlap with high detail at 800x600 at close to maximum
framerate.  As you add cars (e.g., at the starting grid) I think the
CPU is taxed more heavily than the video card.  If you want more than
800x600, you probably want a Voodoo3 or Voodoo5.  The latter will let
you try anti-aliasing.  (I wish I hadn't seen the GPL FSAA
screenshots.  Now I can't stand the jaggies at the side of the road.)

N3, as a Direct3D game, is pretty safe.

Since you're looking at mid-range Athlons, I assume that money is an
object.  You're not paying $200 bucks for that extra 50 MHz, so you
probably don't want to pay $300+ for a video card.  The Voodoo3 is a
decent value and the drivers seem to have finally settled down.  If
you can stretch, the GeForce (DDR preferable) is a good match.

Personally, I'm waiting for AMD's next generation CPU.  By the time I
can afford it, I may have enough for a Voodoo5 5500.  Just the ticket
for taking the jaggies out of GPL.

--Jon


>Well, if you do get a new mobo, I would personally reinstall Win98, seems to
>work much easier for me that way...because just about EVERYTHING changes.

>As far as the video card, if you wanna run GPL and N3, stick with a Voodoo.
>The V4's and V5's are out now I think.

Brett C. Camma

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Brett C. Camma » Sat, 20 May 2000 04:00:00

Biggest concern I have with a complete reinstall is, what am I
supposed to do about all the software I've already installed and has
insinuated itself into the OS on my boot drive.  Are there any
utilities which will gather up the non-OS files, registry settings,
etc. in some sort of backup that can be reloaded back over the new OS
install?

Sometime soon I will be upgrading my motherboard so this is a valid
issue for me.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

Brett C. Camma

need advice, best Hdware for N3 & GPL

by Brett C. Camma » Tue, 23 May 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the info.  One thing I have done is to configure my machine
with an 850 Meg primary physical for only the operating system and
separate 6.4 Gig secondary physical which is divided up into four
logical drives.  Still there are so many registry entries and such
installed on the O/S drive from installing software packages to the
secondary's logicals that I know this is going to be a *** when it
happens.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL


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