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by **Mick** » Thu, 23 May 2002 02:27:40

I was wondering if the "wireless" home networking gear has the same
performance as a hard wired network? Mine would be 2 PC's plus a hub for
connecting to the internet.. The pc's are less than 100 feet apart..
Would that be ok for online racing, or is a wired network needed for
that? I was looking at the Linksys equipment. Thanks for any info. Mick

by **Wireless Dud** » Thu, 23 May 2002 04:44:08

Wap11 is okay..but don't get the Linksys card for your PC
get a Orinoco (www.orinoco.com) card..it is much better.

For racing online,
I'd stick with wired stuff.

If you have a 2.4 gig cordless phone or
microwave oven expect interuptions in signal when making pop-corn
or yappin on the phone.
Wireless is okay for casual browsing, but I would
expect some problems with constant data streams. And if your concerned
about security you would need to at least turn on WEP which would
add some lag and overhead to the data stream.

says...

by **Milhous** » Thu, 23 May 2002 05:33:20

Go wired. Do it right the first time and never worry about it again.

Milhouse

by **The Other Larr** » Thu, 23 May 2002 13:06:18

For Internet,it's fine. 802.11b is rated at 11mbit/sec. However, effective
thru-put after figuring in overhead and 128-bit WEP encryption is 4 to 4.5
mbit/sec. Still plenty for Internet.

File sharing is where you will notice the hit.

-Larry

by **Eldre** » Thu, 23 May 2002 13:16:06

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No, you won't get the same performance. I've run a wireless on my laptop at
work while transferring files. It's a LOT slower for throughput than with
wired...

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by **Steve Smit** » Thu, 23 May 2002 20:36:01

Another consideration is the EMF environment. I tried to set up a wireless
LAN in a residential neighborhood in Brooklyn, NY, but there was so much RF
interference that I had to go back to the dreaded Cat 5 (no problem...apart
from pulling wire through 100-year-old walls).

by **Mick** » Fri, 24 May 2002 05:42:22

Wow, looks like you guys saved me quite a few bucks and a possible head
ache =) Thanks for the info, Mick

> I was wondering if the "wireless" home networking gear has the same
> performance as a hard wired network?

by **Larr** » Sat, 25 May 2002 12:56:52

There's a new thingy out called HomePlug.

You use one adapter at each computer, and one main one at the router.

They are available in Ethernet and USB connectivity for the PC side.

The Lan side is your house wiring.

I've heard they work pretty good, and are in fact a bit faster than 802.11b.

LinkSys and Phonex (www.insertnamehere.com) have them out.

-Larry

> Wow, looks like you guys saved me quite a few bucks and a possible head
> ache =) Thanks for the info, Mick

> > I was wondering if the "wireless" home networking gear has the same
> > performance as a hard wired network?

by **mach** » Sat, 25 May 2002 16:49:51

>There's a new thingy out called HomePlug.

>You use one adapter at each computer, and one main one at the router.

>They are available in Ethernet and USB connectivity for the PC side.

>The Lan side is your house wiring.

>I've heard they work pretty good, and are in fact a bit faster than 802.11b.

>LinkSys and Phonex (www.insertnamehere.com) have them out.

Hmmm... Have yo heard of Internet over the power line? The electricity company
here was field-testing the equipment a couple of months ago, I got to see it
at a friend's who was one of their guinea pigs... I believe it was at least
256kbps.

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\_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
_H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
'-_____|(

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by **Larr** » Sun, 26 May 2002 01:34:48

That's what I just described :)

HomePlug IS over the power line.

It isn't 256kbit though.

-Larry

> >There's a new thingy out called HomePlug.

> >You use one adapter at each computer, and one main one at the router.

> >They are available in Ethernet and USB connectivity for the PC side.

> >The Lan side is your house wiring.

> >I've heard they work pretty good, and are in fact a bit faster than
802.11b.

> >LinkSys and Phonex (www.insertnamehere.com) have them out.

> Hmmm... Have yo heard of Internet over the power line? The electricity
company
> here was field-testing the equipment a couple of months ago, I got to see
it
> at a friend's who was one of their guinea pigs... I believe it was at
least
> 256kbps.

> --
> __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke
> \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
> _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
> '-_____|(

> remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

by **mach** » Sun, 26 May 2002 03:46:17

>That's what I just described :)

>HomePlug IS over the power line.

Yes, but I was under the impression it was for home LANs only...
The one I mean uses the whole network across the city to provide
Internet access. You simply plug your modem into the wall and hook
it to your computer, no additional cables needed.

Now, if you were to combine both, you could have an Internet booth
or computer lab without having to lay additional cabling...

>It isn't 256kbit though.

>-Larry

>> >There's a new thingy out called HomePlug.

>> >You use one adapter at each computer, and one main one at the router.

>> >They are available in Ethernet and USB connectivity for the PC side.

>> >The Lan side is your house wiring.

>> >I've heard they work pretty good, and are in fact a bit faster than
>802.11b.

>> >LinkSys and Phonex (www.insertnamehere.com) have them out.

>> Hmmm... Have yo heard of Internet over the power line? The electricity
>company
>> here was field-testing the equipment a couple of months ago, I got to see
>it
>> at a friend's who was one of their guinea pigs... I believe it was at
>least
>> 256kbps.

>> --
>> __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke
>> \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
>> _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
>> '-_____|(

>> remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

--
__________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke
\_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
_H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
'-_____|(

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by **Larr** » Mon, 27 May 2002 12:43:38

Oh, heavens no :) HomePlug is for single-home only, not the city :)

In fact, I wouldn't want it bleedin' out all over the place :)

-Larry

> >That's what I just described :)

> >HomePlug IS over the power line.

> Yes, but I was under the impression it was for home LANs only...
> The one I mean uses the whole network across the city to provide
> Internet access. You simply plug your modem into the wall and hook
> it to your computer, no additional cables needed.

> Now, if you were to combine both, you could have an Internet booth
> or computer lab without having to lay additional cabling...

> >It isn't 256kbit though.

> >-Larry

> >> >There's a new thingy out called HomePlug.

> >> >You use one adapter at each computer, and one main one at the router.

> >> >They are available in Ethernet and USB connectivity for the PC side.

> >> >The Lan side is your house wiring.

> >> >I've heard they work pretty good, and are in fact a bit faster than
> >802.11b.

> >> >LinkSys and Phonex (www.insertnamehere.com) have them out.

> >> Hmmm... Have yo heard of Internet over the power line? The electricity
> >company
> >> here was field-testing the equipment a couple of months ago, I got to
see
> >it
> >> at a friend's who was one of their guinea pigs... I believe it was at
> >least
> >> 256kbps.

> >> --
> >> __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke
> >> \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
> >> _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
> >> '-_____|(

> >> remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

> --
> __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke
> \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
> _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
> '-_____|(

> remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

by **Jeffrey Haa** » Wed, 29 May 2002 11:21:19

> I was wondering if the "wireless" home networking gear has the same
>performance as a hard wired network? Mine would be 2 PC's plus a hub for
>connecting to the internet.. The pc's are less than 100 feet apart..
>Would that be ok for online racing, or is a wired network needed for
>that? I was looking at the Linksys equipment. Thanks for any info. Mick

I'm running the new linksys USB 2.5 wireless adapter to a linksys hub
and cable modem. Was hard wired for a while. I've had 1 disco with
each type using GPL out of a lot of races. I'd say the wireless is ok.
I am running the wireless without WEP enabled to cut down on some
overhead. I haven't done any optimization of the cable modem
connection to date but have been pretty satisfied . Disco's still hurt
and I'm not sure if I might just run a wire for league races. Others
may offer some more informed opinions. I live in a pretty rural
neighborhood so WEP is not a real big issue for me and the racing
machine is limited to racing and has no other data on it.

Jeff

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