That statement shows that you have an even more blinkered attitude than
the people you're trying to criticise.
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Graeme Nash
That statement shows that you have an even more blinkered attitude than
the people you're trying to criticise.
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Cheers!
Graeme Nash
Papyrus would love to do an F1 sim - but ask Bernie how much he wants
to charge people for that pleasure.
John
Jan.
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>>It isn't GPL or made by Papyrus, so it is going to be bashed. Period.
>That statement shows that you have an even more blinkered attitude than
>the people you're trying to criticise.
Andre
Well, obviously it isn't GPL, but are you saying that no sim made by
Papyrus has been bashed on this group? I'm certain I recall people here
bashing the Nascar series, and particularly Nascar Legends.
Deserved to be bashed for its physics. Do recall, this is not
rec.racing.games, this is rec.autos.simulators, and so there is and should
be some emphasis on car physics.
I hear there are frame rate issues with this game, that it's too
hardware-hungry. You see, there are reasons such games get bashed. High
standards is not equivalent to closed-mindedness.
Why does downloading warez give you zero credibility as a reviewer? (BTW,
I've never downloaded warez). I'd like to hear your reasons. Also, are you
suggesting that all people who say that RC2000 and F1 2000 suck are
"admitted thieves", or are you generalising?
The game sucks but I'll buy it because at least they tried? You must
have a lot of games that suck.
Bendito;
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."
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heh... you're right. But since when was RAS ever useful to get serious
feedback about any sim out there? And this one isn't even from Papyrus,
so it is doomed by default :)...
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Before you buy.
Who are "they"? You are as much part of "this group" as everyone
else posting here, so "we" would be the proper term.
Besides that, you have to be quite narrow-minded to lump all
posters in a newsgroup together and accuse them of prejudices.
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Mats Lofkvist Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
Jan.
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*** theories?
You would actually spend your money on a game you KNEW was bad beforehand?
Just to 'support' a company? Screw that. Why throw away your money? If you
have that kind of money to waste, throw some MY way...
Eldred
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GPL hcp. +70.45
Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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>>I'll wait till the game comes out and buy it myself, even if it
>>"sucks", at least I'll be supporting someone that is trying to build a
>>great modern F1 sim - instead of kissing up to a company (Papyrus)
>>that has no intentions of doing so.
>Once you have formed the ability to read and cultivated a desire to
>seek out information, go and read the recnt interview with Dave
>Kaemeer.
>Papyrus would love to do an F1 sim - but ask Bernie how much he wants
>to charge people for that pleasure.
>John
Why for gods sake would anyone crawl up to Bernie and pay him
big bucks for a freaking license to use names or whatever?
That's the one sole point that MGPRS2 did reasonably right:
*Make it editable*. Open standards, no cryptic file formats,
whatever, make it easy for dedicated people to form a hacking
community bent on improving *your* product which gets *you*
money.
Just release a decent racing simulation with pluggable physics
engines, and it could simulate *all* kinds of eras of modern
racing. 60's, turbos, high-downforce riding on rails, you name
it. Document the interface and use a standard like png or 3do
(it's not standard, but well known by now), throw in up-to-par
multiplayer ability like GPL has and watch the community grow.
Open-source it or license out the source to have third parties
port it to other platforms.
Heck, just to keep bernies lawyers off your ***put all the
"extra editors" that people came up with over an "extensive
period of beta testing" on a second CD just to be safe (of
course you'd make sure that different eras are
one-click-installable as the windows crowd seems to prefer ;-).
With the internet permeating every aspect of people's lives
more and more every day such a thing is bound to work out,
maybe not immediately (just like GPL), but it will in the
intermediate to long - term.
Uwe
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Eldred, I like you more and more by the minute ;-)
Uwe
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% heh... you're right. But since when was RAS ever useful to get serious
% feedback about any sim out there? And this one isn't even from Papyrus,
% so it is doomed by default :)...
Maybe there is a reason beyond r.a.s. being controlled by Papyrus
employees that Papy sims get the support they do here. It could just be
that Papy makes better overall sims than other companies. We like what
we like and more times than not Papy does it right.
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