rec.autos.simulators

> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google any
> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference, maybe it
> does though.  but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have
> room on the desk for the wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is
> dying.

> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> Hey PB

>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>> heh heh

>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default to
>> 533 if you don't set 667)

>> Season's Best
>> ==--==

>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how much
>>> you'd wanna spend.

>>> Look, this is why...

>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I thought
>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow my
>>> old machine was... So then the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even
>>> 500 more bucks
>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and AGP
>>> & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought the Asrock
>>> Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it
>>> 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger harddrive for this new
>>> machine and gained a shitload of performance (no not cutting edge,
>>> but I can see it from here at least).

>>> I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I had
>>> plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I spent...
>>> 225 for the chip
>>> 125 for the memory
>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>> and lastly
>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just under
>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea of
>>> swapping
>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when things
>>> go wrong or if I want to test...

>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held back
>>> with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a helluva
>>> lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually "get some
>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>> video card:

>>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>>>> Comments?

>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware.  I want
>>>>> to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to drive a
>>>>> TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I plan to
>>>>> mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!

>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Pat Dotson

> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google any
> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference, maybe it
> does though.  but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have
> room on the desk for the wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is
> dying.

> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> Hey PB

>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>> heh heh

>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default to
>> 533 if you don't set 667)

>> Season's Best
>> ==--==

>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how much
>>> you'd wanna spend.

>>> Look, this is why...

>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I thought
>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow my
>>> old machine was... So then the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even
>>> 500 more bucks
>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and AGP
>>> & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought the Asrock
>>> Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it
>>> 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger harddrive for this new
>>> machine and gained a shitload of performance (no not cutting edge,
>>> but I can see it from here at least).

>>> I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I had
>>> plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I spent...
>>> 225 for the chip
>>> 125 for the memory
>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>> and lastly
>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just under
>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea of
>>> swapping
>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when things
>>> go wrong or if I want to test...

>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held back
>>> with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a helluva
>>> lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually "get some
>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>> video card:

>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>> Comments?

>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware.  I want
>>>>> to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to drive a
>>>>> TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I plan to
>>>>> mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!

>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Pat Dotson

>> HEY..  ==__==,

>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google any
>> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference,
>> maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD
>> monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the wheel, lol.  plus my
>> old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> Hey PB

>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>> heh heh

>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default to
>>> 533 if you don't set 667)

>>> Season's Best
>>> ==--==

>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how much
>>>> you'd wanna spend.

>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I thought
>>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow
>>>> my old machine was... So then the hunt was on...  knowing I cant
>>>> spend even 500 more bucks
>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and AGP
>>>> & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought the Asrock
>>>> Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it
>>>> 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger harddrive for this
>>>> new machine and gained a shitload of performance (no not cutting
>>>> edge, but I can see it from here at least).

>>>> I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I had
>>>> plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I
>>>> spent... 225 for the chip
>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>> and lastly
>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just under
>>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea
>>>> of swapping
>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when things
>>>> go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually "get
>>>> some
>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>>> video card:

>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>> Comments?

>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware.  I want
>>>>>> to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to drive a
>>>>>> TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I plan
>>>>>> to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!

>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google any
>>> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference,
>>> maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD
>>> monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the wheel, lol.  plus my
>>> old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> Hey PB

>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>> heh heh

>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default to
>>>> 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>> Season's Best
>>>> ==--==

>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how much
>>>>> you'd wanna spend.

>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I thought
>>>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow
>>>>> my old machine was... So then the hunt was on...  knowing I cant
>>>>> spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and AGP
>>>>> & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought the Asrock
>>>>> Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it
>>>>> 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger harddrive for this
>>>>> new machine and gained a shitload of performance (no not cutting
>>>>> edge, but I can see it from here at least).

>>>>> I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I had
>>>>> plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I
>>>>> spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>> and lastly
>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just under
>>>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea
>>>>> of swapping
>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when things
>>>>> go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually "get
>>>>> some
>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>>>> video card:

>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware.  I want
>>>>>>> to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to drive a
>>>>>>> TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I plan
>>>>>>> to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!

>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

> Cheers
> ==--==

>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel


>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google any
>>>> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference,
>>>> maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD
>>>> monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the wheel, lol.  plus my
>>>> old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>> heh heh

>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I thought
>>>>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>>>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow
>>>>>> my old machine was... So then the hunt was on...  knowing I cant
>>>>>> spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought the
>>>>>> Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram
>>>>>> {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a shitload of
>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I
>>>>>> spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just under
>>>>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea
>>>>>> of swapping
>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>>>>> video card:

>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware.  I
>>>>>>>> want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to
>>>>>>>> drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!

>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running at
>> 667) now
>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
>> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>> Cheers
>> ==--==

>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel


>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google any
>>>>> information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much difference,
>>>>> maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is gonna be a LCD
>>>>> monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the wheel, lol.  plus my
>>>>> old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I thought
>>>>>>> hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and replaced the vid
>>>>>>> card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized how crippled & slow
>>>>>>> my old machine was... So then the hunt was on...  knowing I cant
>>>>>>> spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought the
>>>>>>> Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz) ram
>>>>>>> {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a shitload of
>>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY I
>>>>>>> spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just under
>>>>>>> 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like the idea
>>>>>>> of swapping
>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a ~$250-$300
>>>>>>>> video card:

>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other racing
>>>>>>>>> sims, but don't want the latest most expensive hardware.  I
>>>>>>>>> want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it to be able to
>>>>>>>>> drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are appreciated!

>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
> PC2-6400 (as above)

> Cheers
> ==--==

>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that... dang.  I
>> guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>> you buy? ((suggestions)).

>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running at
>>> 667) now
>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
>>> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>> Cheers
>>> ==--==

>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>>>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel


>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google
>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is gonna
>>>>>> be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the wheel,
>>>>>> lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized
>>>>>>>> how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then the hunt was
>>>>>>>> on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought
>>>>>>>> the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz)
>>>>>>>> ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a shitload of
>>>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY
>>>>>>>> I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just
>>>>>>>> under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like
>>>>>>>> the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>> hardware.  I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it
>>>>>>>>>> to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>> PC2-6400 (as above)

>> Cheers
>> ==--==

>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that... dang.  I
>>> guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).

>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running at
>>>> 667) now
>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and ddr2
>>>> 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>>> Cheers
>>>> ==--==

>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you go
>>>>> from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel


>>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google
>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is gonna
>>>>>>> be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the wheel,
>>>>>>> lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly default
>>>>>>>> to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then realized
>>>>>>>>> how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then the hunt was
>>>>>>>>> on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo, and
>>>>>>>>> AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I bought
>>>>>>>>> the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig ddr1, 400mhz)
>>>>>>>>> ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer slightly bigger
>>>>>>>>> harddrive for this new machine and gained a shitload of
>>>>>>>>> performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see it from here at
>>>>>>>>> least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the 6400)

>>>>>>>>> all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this way I
>>>>>>>>> had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much EXACTLY
>>>>>>>>> I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I needed
>>>>>>>>> anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from my just
>>>>>>>>> under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right now, I like
>>>>>>>>> the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent held
>>>>>>>>> back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you could get a
>>>>>>>>> helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you could actually
>>>>>>>>> "get some
>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.  I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want it
>>>>>>>>>>> to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>> Thanks!  I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>> fpd218w at this time...  anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>>> Channel Memory Kit

>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>> PC2-6400 (as above)

>>> Cheers
>>> ==--==

>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>> dang.  I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).

>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running
>>>>> at 667) now
>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you
>>>>>> go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel


>>>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google
>>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is
>>>>>>>> gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the
>>>>>>>> wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I
>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>> shitload of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this
>>>>>>>>>> way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much
>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from
>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.  I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>> Thanks!  I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>> fpd218w at this time...  anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>>> Channel Memory Kit

>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>> PC2-6400 (as above)

>>> Cheers
>>> ==--==

>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>> dang.  I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).

>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running
>>>>> at 667) now
>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you
>>>>>> go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel


>>>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google
>>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is
>>>>>>>> gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the
>>>>>>>> wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I
>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>> shitload of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this
>>>>>>>>>> way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much
>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from
>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.  I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

> Lets compare all that our PC's have.  you might have listed what you got
> altogether, and I probably have at one time...  But here it is

> C2Duo e6400 chip
> BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might been the
> 512 card, I wanted to go all out)
> 2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
> 320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.

> I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one point, just
> because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is it, ALC888) on
> almost all boards suck...  but Im slowly being less than picky.

> might get one of the
> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> lol - ironic?  I have the fpd2185w also  ;)
>> cheers
>> ==--==

>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>> news:ZZxmh.28949$_44.10808@newsfe23.lga...
>>> Thanks!  I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>>> fpd218w at this time...  anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual
>>>> Channel Memory Kit

>>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>>> PC2-6400 (as above)

>>>> Cheers
>>>> ==--==

>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4g9lh.25890$a14.16871@newsfe24.lga...
>>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>>> dang.  I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what did
>>>>> you buy? ((suggestions)).

>>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz - running
>>>>>> at 667) now
>>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9aWkh.12040$6h7.5668@newsfe16.lga...
>>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1 gig
>>>>>>> sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much, did you
>>>>>>> go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:IHdkh.27972$Rj.22487@newsfe19.lga...
>>>>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to google
>>>>>>>>> any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that much
>>>>>>>>> difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase is
>>>>>>>>> gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for the
>>>>>>>>> wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay sale?)
>>>>>>>>>> You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:biDih.12846$RR4.10915@newsfe22.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out how
>>>>>>>>>>> much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more bucks
>>>>>>>>>>> on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I
>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>>> shitload of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy (this
>>>>>>>>>>> way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on how much
>>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from
>>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>>>> pdot...@mindspring.com enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>>>> pdot...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.  I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

> Mine's as follow's;

> C2Duo e64   (775 Dual VSTA)
> ATi x800xl  (agp) still quite a good card - 400/1000 gddr3
> 2 Gb (2x1) OCZ Dual Channel PC2-6400  (800mHz capable - running at
> 667) Sata2 250 gig / coupl'a' 80 gig

> I compared the onboard sound (5.1)  vs. my SB Audigy2 ZS (7.1).  I
> use 5.1 speaker setup and found the onboard to be equal to the
> Audigy.  Whether my ears suck - or mainboard sound chips are finally
> starting to be decent - but I left the Aud out and am quite happily
> using the surround function of the onboard RealTek - it sounds really
> good to me.   FWIW
> Per the GATEWAY fpd2185w
> Well... I ~love~ the monitor, but sadly am looking at returning mine
> for service.  It had been working perfectly in DVI mode and the image
> was fabulous!  Just in the last month or so, I have been having some
> problems with it and now the DVI does not seem to work and I am
> forced to run in VGA mode :(   It has also had a few (4 or 5)
> episodes of turning yellow - ala old monitor failure.  Not good. Anyway...
> I hope that it is something unique to my unit and that I
> will get it repaired or replaced.  P.S. - I did get an extended
> warranty (whew! - 4 yrs) by purchasing it through Futureshop (Canada).

> Cheers
> ==--==

> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
> news:NoRmh.6827$hr3.3308@newsfe24.lga...
>> I Think I sent that last post too quick.

>> Lets compare all that our PC's have.  you might have listed what you
>> got altogether, and I probably have at one time...  But here it is

>> C2Duo e6400 chip
>> BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might
>> been the 512 card, I wanted to go all out)
>> 2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
>> 320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.

>> I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one
>> point, just because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is
>> it, ALC888) on almost all boards suck...  but Im slowly being less
>> than picky. might get one of the
>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>> lol - ironic?  I have the fpd2185w also  ;)
>>> cheers
>>> ==--==

>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ZZxmh.28949$_44.10808@newsfe23.lga...
>>>> Thanks!  I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>>>> fpd218w at this time...  anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>>>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM
>>>>> Dual Channel Memory Kit

>>>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>>>> PC2-6400 (as above)

>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> ==--==

>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4g9lh.25890$a14.16871@newsfe24.lga...
>>>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>>>> dang.  I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what
>>>>>> did you buy? ((suggestions)).

>>>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz -
>>>>>>> running at 667) now
>>>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:9aWkh.12040$6h7.5668@newsfe16.lga...
>>>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1
>>>>>>>> gig sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much,
>>>>>>>> did you go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:IHdkh.27972$Rj.22487@newsfe19.lga...
>>>>>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to
>>>>>>>>>> google any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that
>>>>>>>>>> much difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase
>>>>>>>>>> is gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for
>>>>>>>>>> the wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay
>>>>>>>>>>> sale?) You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:biDih.12846$RR4.10915@newsfe22.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>> how much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more
>>>>>>>>>>>> bucks on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>>>> shitload of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy
>>>>>>>>>>>> (this way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on
>>>>>>>>>>>> how much EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from
>>>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>>>>> pdot...@mindspring.com enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdot...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racing sims, but don't want the latest most expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.  I want to main system to cost >$1000, but want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be able to drive a TripleHead2Go display.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please suggest CPU/Mobo/GPU combo that will be suitable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I plan to mail order and assemble it myself.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any tips on setting up the TH2Go system are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated! Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

> But here's what I wondering, GTL, & my machine, well it would load it, but
> I wont run it at 1680x1050, as you may know you have to have high world
> detail to get to see all the cones at to many tracks, that puts me back in
> the sub30 fps just in practice, in my cup challenge (in d with 21 cars) so
> right now Im running 1024x768 like I was, but it must be doing something
> because it is full screen, and am I losing frames all over the place?

> later.  Love this monitor I hope my refurb'd one lasts a while, I didnt
> even see a scratch on the bezel and I looked pretty hard, hopefully I got
> one that was returned due to buyer/cash remorse, instead of actual
> problem.

> ==--== enlightened us with:
>> Hi PB

>> Mine's as follow's;

>> C2Duo e64   (775 Dual VSTA)
>> ATi x800xl  (agp) still quite a good card - 400/1000 gddr3
>> 2 Gb (2x1) OCZ Dual Channel PC2-6400  (800mHz capable - running at
>> 667) Sata2 250 gig / coupl'a' 80 gig

>> I compared the onboard sound (5.1)  vs. my SB Audigy2 ZS (7.1).  I
>> use 5.1 speaker setup and found the onboard to be equal to the
>> Audigy.  Whether my ears suck - or mainboard sound chips are finally
>> starting to be decent - but I left the Aud out and am quite happily
>> using the surround function of the onboard RealTek - it sounds really
>> good to me.   FWIW
>> Per the GATEWAY fpd2185w
>> Well... I ~love~ the monitor, but sadly am looking at returning mine
>> for service.  It had been working perfectly in DVI mode and the image
>> was fabulous!  Just in the last month or so, I have been having some
>> problems with it and now the DVI does not seem to work and I am
>> forced to run in VGA mode :(   It has also had a few (4 or 5)
>> episodes of turning yellow - ala old monitor failure.  Not good.
>> Anyway... I hope that it is something unique to my unit and that I
>> will get it repaired or replaced.  P.S. - I did get an extended
>> warranty (whew! - 4 yrs) by purchasing it through Futureshop (Canada).

>> Cheers
>> ==--==

>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>> news:NoRmh.6827$hr3.3308@newsfe24.lga...
>>> I Think I sent that last post too quick.

>>> Lets compare all that our PC's have.  you might have listed what you
>>> got altogether, and I probably have at one time...  But here it is

>>> C2Duo e6400 chip
>>> BFG Tech 7800gs-oc 256 (dang I forget to double check this, might
>>> been the 512 card, I wanted to go all out)
>>> 2 gig Corsair value select ddr1 400 ram
>>> 320 gig Hitachi HD as main, 100 gig as backup drive and D.

>>> I was contemplating getting the New soundblaster X card at one
>>> point, just because I keep hearing that the onboard sound (what is
>>> it, ALC888) on almost all boards suck...  but Im slowly being less
>>> than picky. might get one of the
>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>> lol - ironic?  I have the fpd2185w also  ;)
>>>> cheers
>>>> ==--==

>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ZZxmh.28949$_44.10808@newsfe23.lga...
>>>>> Thanks!  I might get some soon, but I ended up buying my Gateway
>>>>> fpd218w at this time...  anyone want me old faded 17 inch viewsonic
>>>>> LOL! ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>> OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM
>>>>>> Dual Channel Memory Kit

>>>>>> my mistake before, I said pc2-5300 and what I actually have is
>>>>>> PC2-6400 (as above)

>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4g9lh.25890$a14.16871@newsfe24.lga...
>>>>>>> Ya know, I could have went half a year without hearing that...
>>>>>>> dang.  I guess I will be pricin some 800 or better ram, SO what
>>>>>>> did you buy? ((suggestions)).

>>>>>>> forsale 2 matched corsair value select, ddr400...  <G>.
>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>> yes, Plowboy pc3200 is ddr400 - I have pc2-5300 (800mHz -
>>>>>>>> running at 667) now
>>>>>>>> yes, I had dual channel setups in both cases

>>>>>>>> Consider the difference in memory bandwidth between ddr 400 and
>>>>>>>> ddr2 667 +60 % - roughly - in throughput

>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:9aWkh.12040$6h7.5668@newsfe16.lga...
>>>>>>>>> 3200, is that ddr 400?  that is what I have dual channel 2x 1
>>>>>>>>> gig sticks... I didnt think that memory would do that much,
>>>>>>>>> did you go from equal dual 3200 to ddr2 800?
>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. - the DDR400 was not crappy ram either - GEIL DualChannel
>>>>>>>>>> PC3200 "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:IHdkh.27972$Rj.22487@newsfe19.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>> HEY..  ==__==,

>>>>>>>>>>> YOu got one of these boards too then?  I been trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> google any information, didnt see where the ddr2 made that
>>>>>>>>>>> much difference, maybe it does though.  but my next purchase
>>>>>>>>>>> is gonna be a LCD monitor.  So I have room on the desk for
>>>>>>>>>>> the wheel, lol.  plus my old 17 inch monitor is dying.

>>>>>>>>>>> ==--== enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey PB

>>>>>>>>>>>> Break down and buy some (2x1g) DDR2 667 (
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jam that in your Dual board and remove the DDR400 (ebay
>>>>>>>>>>>> sale?) You'll be thrilled with the difference ;)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Did I hear - Boxing Day Sale????
>>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh

>>>>>>>>>>>> *(Don't forget to set the speed in BIOS - it will prolly
>>>>>>>>>>>> default to 533 if you don't set 667)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Season's Best
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==--==

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Plowboy" <P...@boy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:biDih.12846$RR4.10915@newsfe22.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you have now?  that is the easiest way to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how much you'd wanna spend.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, this is why...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You See, I had an aging (over 4 years old) p4 2.4ghz 400fsb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard ram and 6600 AGP vid card.  Very recently, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought hell this would be enough" so I ventured out and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced the vid card with 7800gs (again AGP)... then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realized how crippled & slow my old machine was... So then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hunt was on...  knowing I cant spend even 500 more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bucks on this dang thing, I did this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a motherboard though, that supports the Core2 duo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and AGP & PCIe and happened to run same ddr Memory.  So I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Asrock Dual VSTA board, one more stick (1gig
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ddr1, 400mhz) ram {making it 2} and migrating into a newer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly bigger harddrive for this new machine and gained a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shitload of performance (no not cutting edge, but I can see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from here at least). I cheaped out on the chip (got the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6400) all priced if I recall as I dont have reciept handy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (this way I had plausible deny-a-bility with the wife) on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how much EXACTLY I spent... 225 for the chip
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 125 for the memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 75 for the motherboard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and lastly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just under 75 for the IDE harddrive that in my opinion I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed anyhow. (320 gig hitachi I believe it is.)  up from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my just under 200 gig'r I should have done SATA, but right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, I like the idea of swapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the HD with my removable bay, and the USB Hd enclosure when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things go wrong or if I want to test...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow P, if you wanna be closer to cutting edge, or arent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> held back with AGP vid card you dont want to replace you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get a helluva lot for 1000, in fact I would think you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could actually "get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> onya" or be close enough to smell it  <VBG>.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdot...@mindspring.com enlightened us with:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying this and then slapping in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~$250-$300 video card:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8007453&type=product&pr...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Dotson

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdot...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to put together a system to run rFactor and other